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post #7831 of 37385
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

I am quite sensitive to treble, and have little love for harsh treble and unless I have a very different definition of harsh, the 880 does not have harsh treble. The HF2 was considered to have some of the better portrayed highs for Grados, sounds like the MS1 which a fellow head-fier brought over to my home for a listening session. When he heard the HF2 he couldn't believe how similar to the MS1 it was. The 880 in my opinion has better treble than the HF2, detailed enough to be revealing, but not harsh. I listen to music quite loud, and if the treble is harsh, I can't bear it for long. The 880 is not soft of course, but in my view (and of course many other peoples view) it balances well the opposing goals of detail and listenability. Certainly hear some for yourself, don't just believe that they are harsh because others say they are. There are many posters here who think the 650s are not very good, and yet many would differ. Only your ears will know. If your in New York you are sure to find a store that carries both Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser, give them both a good listen with as many genres as you can.

The only way to know is trying it out for myself. People say it's best to go to meets, but I have no idea of what a meet is, could you explain lol?

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A meet is when a bunch of headphone nuts get together in one place and everybody brings their equipment with them, that way people can go around the room and test drive the different gear. We had a meet here in Ottawa recently that was a blast, but I'm not sure a meet is always the best. At a meet it is hard to actually just listen as there are so many cool people to talk to that you are likely to spend more time talking than listening. I say the best way to audition is when your own your own and you can take as much time as you need, which at a meet may be difficult as others are often waiting to use the gear so you feel the need to move along quicker than is optimum.

 

If your visiting New York (city?) you will find many audio stores carrying both brands. Do some web searching, find some places close to where you'll be and ask them if you can try the gear there. Bring your own music with you of course if you can. Take your time and just listen to the music. Your ears know what they like. Look forward to hearing how your search turns out.

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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

A meet is when a bunch of headphone nuts get together in one place and everybody brings their equipment with them, that way people can go around the room and test drive the different gear. We had a meet here in Ottawa recently that was a blast, but I'm not sure a meet is always the best. At a meet it is hard to actually just listen as there are so many cool people to talk to that you are likely to spend more time talking than listening. I say the best way to audition is when your own your own and you can take as much time as you need, which at a meet may be difficult as others are often waiting to use the gear so you feel the need to move along quicker than is optimum.

 

If your visiting New York (city?) you will find many audio stores carrying both brands. Do some web searching, find some places close to where you'll be and ask them if you can try the gear there. Bring your own music with you of course if you can. Take your time and just listen to the music. Your ears know what they like. Look forward to hearing how your search turns out.

B&H photo had a huge selection, but the source was just horrible, I'll have to research a bit and take my time in different stores. Wish me luck!!

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A bad source sucks for sure, however, if the source is the same for all the headphones at least you have one variable held constant. Ideally you can also control the source, but that I'm sure is often difficult. I do wish you all the best, and take your time, I can't stress that enough. Even if one visit seems to have resulted in a winner, if you can come back another day and make sure that you still feel the same way. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

A bad source sucks for sure, however, if the source is the same for all the headphones at least you have one variable held constant. Ideally you can also control the source, but that I'm sure is often difficult. I do wish you all the best, and take your time, I can't stress that enough. Even if one visit seems to have resulted in a winner, if you can come back another day and make sure that you still feel the same way. Cheers.

thanks, I'll take my time because I'm REALLY picky with choosing headphones. What version of the dt880 did you get? 600 ohms, 250 ohms, or 32 ohms?

 

EDIT: Is the dt880 closed or open?

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I have the 600ohm version which a consensus seems to indicate is the better sounding version, however, this is like anything you will read subjective. The 880 is considered to be semi-open. Good to be picky with your headphones. What type of amplifier will you be using to drive the headphone you select?

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I have the 600ohm version which a consensus seems to indicate is the better sounding version, however, this is like anything you will read subjective. The 880 is considered to be semi-open. Good to be picky with your headphones. What type of amplifier will you be using to drive the headphone you select?

I was thinking an O2 or an asgard would be good, but I' willing to buy a better amp if necessary (a DAC too). The 600 ohm version requires a lot of power, will the O2 or asgard be enough, or will a more expensive amp? I also want to note that I don't intend in buying a tube amp since it's just too much work for me and I intend in taking my amps to places, so it won't be a good idea to take a tube amp. Do you think there's a big difference between the 250 ohm and the 600 ohm version? Maybe the 600 ohm version has a smoother treble than the 250 ohm version.

post #7838 of 37385
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I was thinking an O2 or an asgard would be good, but I' willing to buy a better amp if necessary (a DAC too). The 600 ohm version requires a lot of power, will the O2 or asgard be enough, or will a more expensive amp?

 

More expensive isn't the same as better. The O2 will drive the HD 650 just fine.

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More expensive isn't the same as better. The O2 will drive the HD 650 just fine.

How about the beyer dt880 600 ohm version?

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Originally Posted by daniel521 View Post

How about the beyer dt880 600 ohm version?

 

It should, unless you listen very loud.

post #7841 of 37385
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It should, unless you listen very loud.

Well, does it drive it to it's full potential, or would I need a better amp for that? Maybe an asgard? It seems it just barely drives it enough, tell me if I'm wrong though.

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Well, does it drive it to it's full potential, or would I need a better amp for that? Maybe an asgard? It seems it just barely drives it enough, tell me if I'm wrong though.

 

This isn't really the topic of the Sennheiser HD650 Appreciation thread. Try asking in one of the Beyerdynamics threads. Beyer's fans know their cans just like Senn's.fans do.

 

OT: The HD650, at 300 Ohms, produces clear audio from a FiiO E5 (until just before it begins clipping.) An O2+ODAC was what I was ready to buy for the 650's, but it lacked a few mechanical features which I wanted.  The Matrix M-Stage I got instead suits me very well. I hope it's the right choice.

post #7843 of 37385
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Originally Posted by HamilcarBarca View Post

 

This isn't really the topic of the Sennheiser HD650 Appreciation thread. Try asking in one of the Beyerdynamics threads. Beyer's fans know their cans just like Senn's.fans do.

 

OT: The HD650, at 300 Ohms, produces clear audio from a FiiO E5 (until just before it begins clipping.) An O2+ODAC was what I was ready to buy for the 650's, but it lacked a few mechanical features which I wanted.  The Matrix M-Stage I got instead suits me very well. I hope it's the right choice.

I got a bit off topic. Thanks for the info :)

post #7844 of 37385

I'm not often surprised in the world of headphones. The hd650 has truly surprised me. I was steered away from by others opinions about the supposed flaws. I absolutely and completely love it. It hits all the boxes for me and I ordered it yesterday after auditioning a borrowed pair for the weekend. 

 

I've only amped it with the e09 and odac. So I feel that I haven't even heard the best of it yet. No review here...just wanted to say that I am truly enjoying music on this hp.

post #7845 of 37385
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I'm not often surprised in the world of headphones. The hd650 has truly surprised me. I was steered away from by others opinions about the supposed flaws. I absolutely and completely love it. It hits all the boxes for me and I ordered it yesterday after auditioning a borrowed pair for the weekend. 

 

I've only amped it with the e09 and odac. So I feel that I haven't even heard the best of it yet. No review here...just wanted to say that I am truly enjoying music on this hp.

Did you like it more than the HE-400?

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