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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post

From what i've heard, the o2 is a good choice as well as the fiio e9, although the o2 would be the better of the two. The oda would probably also be a good choice, but it hasn't been released yet, so you'll have to wait for that one.


I thought a lot about fiio, but I was looking more at the e17. I liked that I could just throw it in my pocket and take it with me. Then the thought occurred that hd650's aren't exactly what you bring along when you have to wait in line at the dmv, so portability became more of a way to show off the new cans. The hard part of it all is hearing the good and bad from many different people on the same item. It's such a subjective thing that there's a lot of difficulty in it. I guess at this point I just need to decide on something that's solid, and has some versatility so I can figure out exactly what kind of sound I'm going for. Playing these out of the P.O.S. sony receiver is such a waste of potential.

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I thought a lot about fiio, but I was looking more at the e17. I liked that I could just throw it in my pocket and take it with me. Then the thought occurred that hd650's aren't exactly what you bring along when you have to wait in line at the dmv, so portability became more of a way to show off the new cans. The hard part of it all is hearing the good and bad from many different people on the same item. It's such a subjective thing that there's a lot of difficulty in it. I guess at this point I just need to decide on something that's solid, and has some versatility so I can figure out exactly what kind of sound I'm going for. Playing these out of the P.O.S. sony receiver is such a waste of potential.

I have the e17 now, and i've heard the 650s out of the o2 and the lyr before. They deserve better than the e17. The o2 seems like a good choice for you. It is a little analytical, but for the price, there really isn't anything that can beat it. I'm personally waiting for the oda because i don't need a portable amp.

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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post

From what i've heard, the o2 is a good choice as well as the fiio e9, although the o2 would be the better of the two.

 

The E9 is mostly the same as the built-in headphone amplifier on the Xonar STX (which in my opinion would drive the HD650 fine, by the way), so there is not much point using an STX->E9 combination. If you do insist on an external amplifier, then the O2 is a good choice; however, especially if you plan to eventually get an external DAC as well anyway, you can save money by choosing a card with no headphone amplifier (e.g. Xonar D1, DX, D2, or D2X).

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At present I run the HD650 from my NAD 326Bee amplifier....

 

If I was to get a better dedicated headphone amp would this improve the bass extension?

 

I guess probably not and it might just improve the quality but not the depth.

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At present I run the HD650 from my NAD 326Bee amplifier....

 

If I was to get a better dedicated headphone amp would this improve the bass extension?

 

I guess probably not and it might just improve the quality but not the depth.

Generally, with the HD650's the better the surrounding components, the better they sound. Give them a great amp and they will reward you.

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Yes but will it actually improve the bass depth or will they always be lacking in bass < 40hz?

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Don't let people fool you into thinking 'better' amps will magically add sub-bass to the HD650.

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What's the consensus on cables improving the HD650's? I just won a Bellatone reference cable.


Ben aka MacKat
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What's the consensus on cables improving the HD650's?

 

lol, consensus on cables improving sound.  Good luck with that.

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Don't let people fool you into thinking 'better' amps will magically add sub-bass to the HD650.

I was not implying that a better amp could create performance that the HD650's are incapable of. However, lower quality amps will generally make the 650's sound far worse than they can.

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lol, consensus on cables improving sound.  Good luck with that.

 

lmao... truth

 

if you really want sub bass you can try to eq it or get different cans

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lmao... truth

 

if you really want sub bass you can try to eq it or get different cans

 

Shame because the only headphones which have comparable sound quality to the HD650 and have sub bass as well are at least £400....

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

At present I run the HD650 from my NAD 326Bee amplifier....

 

If I was to get a better dedicated headphone amp would this improve the bass extension?

 

I guess probably not and it might just improve the quality but not the depth.

 

The HD650 in general comes alive with good amplification - and part of the "coming alive" thing is that bass extension is greatly improved with a good amp.

 

Now - I have no idea about how capable the headphone out from the NAD 326Bee is. But since it's NAD I'm betting it's pretty good.

 

The answer to your question is "it depends". Some aftermarket amps are pretty lean sounding while others add some warmth and bass. I myself own a Burson HA-160 and I've never heard another SS amps that adds so much warmth and slam to the sound. So that could be an option if you're interested in trying something with a bit more lower end punch.

 

The HD650 has it's limits though - it has great mid-bass and can thump pretty hard with the right amp but there are other options that are better for really low bass (the area around 0-40 Hz or so). The HE-500 and LCD-2 would be the prime suspects for an upgrade in that direction.

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one thing I found in this hobby is people tend to think a delicate headphone amp (no matter how cheap it is) should sound better than a good receiver or speaker tab  while it's not necessary true 

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