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I'd also recommend the O2 as well. It powers the HD 650's nicely and on top of that its very portable. 

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Hmm.. I'll put some consideration into the o2 as well then.. What about the asgard? I've heard it sounds good as well.

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The Asgard is also good, but if you consider the Asgard, you should also consider the Matrix M-Stage, which is also good.

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Hmm.. I'll put some consideration into the o2 as well then.. What about the asgard? I've heard it sounds good as well.

 

Surprised the Asgard was mentioned over the Valhalla. Most reviews I've read mention the Valhalla is a better match.

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Surprised the Asgard was mentioned over the Valhalla. Most reviews I've read mention the Valhalla is a better match.

Yeah the valhalla is more expensive though.. but i still am considering it. I think i've narrowed my list down to the asgard/valhalla, m-stage, and o2.

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Yeah the valhalla is more expensive though.. but i still am considering it. I think i've narrowed my list down to the asgard/valhalla, m-stage, and o2.

I've owned the M-Stage and the O2, and I find the M-Stage is a bit of a slow amp.  I don't think it'd be a good pairing for the H650.

This is just speculation, but I've heard from friends that the Asgard is slower than the M-Stage, so it may be an even worse pairing.

 

Your choice should, in my opinion, be between the Valhalla and the O2.  Pick the Valhalla if you like tubes and pick the O2 if you like solid state.  The Valhalla will introduce distortion that you may find pleasing and the O2 will not.

I personally picked the O2 because I need low-distortion monitoring for my job, but the Valhalla is good if you want the tube warmth.


Edited by PelPix - 8/7/12 at 2:08pm
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I've owned the M-Stage and the O2, and I find the M-Stage is a bit of a slow amp.  I don't think it'd be a good pairing for the H650.

This is just speculation, but I've heard from friends that the Asgard is slower than the M-Stage, so it may be an even worse pairing.

 

Your choice should, in my opinion, be between the Valhalla and the O2.  Pick the Valhalla if you like tubes and pick the O2 if you like solid state.  The Valhalla will introduce distortion that you may find pleasing and the O2 will not.

I personally picked the O2 because I need low-distortion monitoring for my job, but the Valhalla is good if you want the tube warmth.

Hmm, thanks a lot! I think i'm leaning towards the valhalla now. I've always had ss amps, and i kinda wanna give tubes a try.

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Nope.  Sealed.
It's not BRIGHT, it's just...even.  Like, there's no sibilance of any kind, but there's tons of treble.  It has clearer treble than my DT880/600, which I have right next to me.  It doesn't have a mid-high bump like the K702 or the DT880/600.  It's even through that area.  It's after that, in the 15-20khz area that there's tons of presence.  I A/B my headphones playing pink noise with the trees in my back yard, and the HD650 is the closest yet.
I may be worth noting that I can hear up to 21khz.

Strange. 650 is def darker than 600. I have no idea why you experience that but try playing dif music? I'm sure u have already but it does sound strange
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Strange. 650 is def darker than 600. I have no idea why you experience that but try playing dif music? I'm sure u have already but it does sound strange

It's an odd experience.  It's definitely a dark can, now that I listen more, but there's also tons of treble. confused_face_2.gif  The mids and treble are incredibly balanced, and it has this tinkling, crystal-clear presence up in the cymbal area and the blackest background I've ever heard.  It's so...unfatiguing.  Oddly enough, this is exactly the opposite of what I'd call a "veil."  It's all so well-defined.

My equipment is my film and music engineering chain, and it's pretty good.  Maybe this is the 650s "scaling up" everyone keeps talking about.


Edited by PelPix - 8/7/12 at 3:02pm
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I'm getting an Asgard tomorrow to pair with my HD650. I'll make sure to give impressions. 

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I'm getting an Asgard tomorrow to pair with my HD650. I'll make sure to give impressions. 

Looking forward to hear them!

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Just curious as I am new to tube amps. What do you mean by distortion. I would think that would be a bad thing in listening to music. I really like tube amps because they seem aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I have an O2 and just wondering how they differ in sound between each other?

 

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Originally Posted by PelPix View Post

I've owned the M-Stage and the O2, and I find the M-Stage is a bit of a slow amp.  I don't think it'd be a good pairing for the H650.

This is just speculation, but I've heard from friends that the Asgard is slower than the M-Stage, so it may be an even worse pairing.

 

Your choice should, in my opinion, be between the Valhalla and the O2.  Pick the Valhalla if you like tubes and pick the O2 if you like solid state.  The Valhalla will introduce distortion that you may find pleasing and the O2 will not.

I personally picked the O2 because I need low-distortion monitoring for my job, but the Valhalla is good if you want the tube warmth.

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Just curious as I am new to tube amps. What do you mean by distortion. I would think that would be a bad thing in listening to music. I really like tube amps because they seem aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I have an O2 and just wondering how they differ in sound between each other?

 

Some people like the certain distortion tubes give. It won't make everything sound crappy, but it would make drastic changes to the sound signature of the music, the "distortion" is just how much the output differs from the input I think. I think the rule of thumb is if you want a very colored sound (tubes can still have a lot of detail though from what I'm told) go tubes and if you want a transparent/natural sound go solid state, but there are exceptions to both.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, this is just my understanding.

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What do you mean by output differs from input?

 

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Originally Posted by jtaylor991 View Post

Some people like the certain distortion tubes give. It won't make everything sound crappy, but it would make drastic changes to the sound signature of the music, the "distortion" is just how much the output differs from the input I think. I think the rule of thumb is if you want a very colored sound (tubes can still have a lot of detail though from what I'm told) go tubes and if you want a transparent/natural sound go solid state, but there are exceptions to both.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, this is just my understanding.

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Former lurker here. Just ordered my 650s from RazorDog. Thanks for leading me there. Now it's time to break the news to my wife that I need a bifrost and an Asgard!
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