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post #721 of 36903
nor_spoon, is there anything you feel the 650 does better than the 800? If you don't see yourself selling the 650, there must be something you like about them over the 800.
post #722 of 36903
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nor_spoon, is there anything you feel the 650 does better than the 800? If you don't see yourself selling the 650, there must be something you like about them over the 800.
Better...no, I do not think so, just a different presentation. Compared to the HD800, they have a smaller, more intimate soundstage, warmer, fuller in a sense because of low and mid-bass hump, the somewhat bloated, more impactful bass, and their rolled off top. Because of their rolled of treble, they are non-fatuiging and sort of natural sounding to my ears, if that makes sense.

At least for now, they will stay. Time will show if I pick them up again, or if the HD800 will get all the head time. The HD800 really is in another league.

The Zana Deux is really grabbing the HD650 by their "balls" and drive them to their full potentional, or at least close to it.
post #723 of 36903
In a few days, i am too gonna be a new owner of those...I already have a RS-1 and AH-D5000 but just have to try one of the upscale senns.
My first full size cans were the hd595 that gave me a great introduction to hi-fi listening, and now i am gonna try the hg650 to see the differences.

the only thing that i am worried about is that i will have a hard time getting used to their treble...because i really love the grado highs. I just hope that the 650 will give enough treble extention.
post #724 of 36903
plonter: if you love the treble of the RS-1, you might find the HD650 lacking, at least at first, but you should give it time. Some needs more time than others, some never get past their "veil". Personally, I find the Grado peak to be too much for my taste, or at least I can handle it only in small dozes.
post #725 of 36903
The thing about the 650 is, that though it might appear to be rolled off in comparison to other phones, it sounds right compared to what I hear in the concert hall from a typical listening distance. Maybe this is what makes the 650 a "classical" phone, this very natural, concert hall balance. That being the case, I suspect that those who value that balance, that experience, might find the 800 a little bright and upfront. In the concert hall you simply don't hear everything crystal clear and "etched"; vibrant detail is not part of the equation, at least not unless you're sitting on stage. What you do hear is a warm, silky smoothness which the 650 does a pretty fair job of imitating.
post #726 of 36903
pp312 x2

I think that's a wonderful 650 vs. 800 summary............

(I wonder why so many headphone users crave something other than a natural concert-hall sound, though, and prefer the unnatural?)
post #727 of 36903
Ha! Well, I might venture a guess that most of those buying phones have never been in a concert hall and indeed wouldn't be caught dead in one. Their criterion would a rock concert or pub venue, somewhere where a more immediate, grab-you-by-the-collar sound is required. Personally, though I've never heard it and probably never will unless my rich uncle dies, I've no doubt the 800 is a better phone in terms of refinement and resolving power, I'm not yet convinced that it would be a more satisfying one in the long term with classical/orchestral music.

And even if someone convinces me, I still can't afford it.
post #728 of 36903
I still like mine despite wanting to get better headphones.
post #729 of 36903
how can i tell if my hd650 is the new or the old edition? what are the differences between the new and the old hd650?
post #730 of 36903
Plonter: the newer version has large silver mesh, while the older model has large black mesh.
It is easy to distinguish when looking from the outside through the metal grill.
post #731 of 36903
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Plonter: the newer version has large silver mesh, while the older model has large black mesh.
It is easy to distinguish when looking from the outside through the metal grill.
thanks...i will check it first thing when i get them.
post #732 of 36903
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the only thing that i am worried about is that i will have a hard time getting used to their treble...because i really love the grado highs. I just hope that the 650 will give enough treble extention.
My EF1 with Tungsram is pumping out more than enough treble for my needs (as good as my K701), and since you have both IIRC I don't think you'll have anything to worry about (well, you wont have Grado highs obviously no matter what, but it'll still be plenty IMO).
post #733 of 36903
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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post
My EF1 with Tungsram is pumping out more than enough treble for my needs (as good as my K701), and since you have both IIRC I don't think you'll have anything to worry about (well, you wont have Grado highs obviously no matter what, but it'll still be plenty IMO).
thanks, I don't expect a grado highs, ofcourse that's the reason i bought the senns, to get another sound sig. and if you say that you get enough high tones with the EF1+tunsgram, than my ultra micro amp got even more treble extention and dynamics so it will be a good pair with the 650's.
I can't wait to get them.
post #734 of 36903
Have you guys seen how bad my HD 650 looks




Ugly as hell eh? Well, a couple months ago I realized that the headband was cracking...so of course I rigged it with .032 aluminum sheet metal and stainless steel pop rivets

...but they still sound just as sweet! Many hundreds of hours use. I guess some day I'll fix them properly.
post #735 of 36903
Almost my 1 year anniversary since pairing with the HD650s and I haven't looked back since.

Unbelievably great sounding headphones. When you read / hear the reviews about people stating the HD650s have "brought life back to their music" I can honestly say that it's true, like listening to a whole new song.

They really add to the whole listening experience, the added detail and clarity makes your favorite song an emotional journey. (sounds stupid I know but it's true) I appreciate mine so much, that I think it's time to mate them with a better source and amp.
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