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post #6166 of 36844

The 650 needs a good amp to really be noteworthy amongst other high end cans.  When I had a more meager setup I found myself getting bored with it every so often and impressed with just about anything else over $150 that was colored in some way.  It took my Burson (not saying it takes this exclusively - it's just the upgrade I ended up making) for the 650's to sound remarkably better headphones like the SRH 840's, 940's, and even the PRO 750's. 

 

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Oh yeah, I feel like I should clarify that my relatively recent acquisition of 3 higher-end open headphones was more about product fetishism than me being bored with the 650's.  While the HD800's, HE-500's, and LCD-2's are all better headphones, my original impulse had nothing to do with the 650's being lacking; they're excellent all rounders and I could easily think of at least one or two aspects of them I'd splice into those headphones that are 2 to roughly 5 times as expensive if I could.


Edited by driver 8 - 3/17/12 at 11:00pm
post #6167 of 36844
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Originally Posted by john65537 View Post

When I tried HD650 in a dealer's shop, due to a setup problem I couldn't use an amp for this 300 ohm headphone, so I just plug it directly into my android tablet.

 

What suprised me is that HD650 still performed wonderfully.

So why does everybody say hd650 requires a good amp?



Trust us , you've only heard a fraction of what these can's can do with proper amplification. They truly benefit from it.

post #6168 of 36844

LCD2 is darker sounding than HD650. Relatively speaking the HD650 is more mid dominated, while the LCD2 is more low dominated. While one can like both, I disagree that if you like one you'd automatically like the other. HE500 sounds more sparkly than both of those.

 

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Originally Posted by john65537 View Post

When I tried HD650 in a dealer's shop, due to a setup problem I couldn't use an amp for this 300 ohm headphone, so I just plug it directly into my android tablet.

 

What suprised me is that HD650 still performed wonderfully.

So why does everybody say hd650 requires a good amp?

 

There is a lot of bull in this forum, mainly from disproportionately loud kids having little experience and simply parroting stuffs that they read. Yes, a lot of those cans that "requires an amp" sounds good out of a lot of things even though they can sound better.

 

post #6169 of 36844
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Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post

LCD2 is darker sounding than HD650. Relatively speaking the HD650 is more mid dominated, while the LCD2 is more low dominated. While one can like both, I disagree that if you like one you'd automatically like the other. HE500 sounds more sparkly than both of those.

 

 

There is a lot of bull in this forum, mainly from disproportionately loud kids having little experience and simply parroting stuffs that they read. Yes, a lot of those cans that "requires an amp" sounds good out of a lot of things even though they can sound better.

 



Nowhere near as dark sounding as the HD650 in my experience.

post #6170 of 36844
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post



Nowhere near as dark sounding as the HD650 in my experience.



I would have agreed with you a few years back. But the new HD650 is not what I consider dark at all. Any chance the one you are having is the old version? Even the driver change was many years ago, I still find those in the shop 2 years ago, and those are really dark sounding.

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Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post



I would have agreed with you a few years back. But the new HD650 is not what I consider dark at all. Any chance the one you are having is the old version? Even the driver change was many years ago, I still find those in the shop 2 years ago, and those are really dark sounding.

 

I replaced a stolen pair with a brand new pair before I even knew that their was 2 versions. I remember checking and comfirmed that it was the new type.

No idea if my stolen pair was the new or old version but I did not really notice any difference, from memory between the two.

 

I tried after market cables, Equinox and Silver Dragon v2, but the darkness remained ( less so with the SD).

I can only compare what I hear now with what I used to hear and the LCD-2 (r1 and even more so my current r2 version) and the LCD's sound a lot brighter than the HD650's ever did.

In fact I don't feel that the LCD r2 are dark at all in my current system.
 

 

post #6172 of 36844

Would it ever be possible to listen to the hd650 in public... maybe quietly? I've noticed some open cans leak more than other. For example the AKG seems to leak less than the grado... just wondering with the senn how much it is a concern.

post #6173 of 36844
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Originally Posted by Bonobo Loco View Post

Would it ever be possible to listen to the hd650 in public... maybe quietly? I've noticed some open cans leak more than other. For example the AKG seems to leak less than the grado... just wondering with the senn how much it is a concern.

It would be very difficult. Because they provide hardly any isolation, you would need to put the volume relatively high to drown outside noises. This in turn causes quite loud noise leaking as well.
post #6174 of 36844

whats the colour coding for headphone cables? ive one for the 650s which is black and red at the headphone connects. Is red right like rca and xlr? 

 

Dan

post #6175 of 36844

It should be.  Just double check by adjusting the balance on your source.

post #6176 of 36844

thanks! that is logical :) 

post #6177 of 36844

I just wanted to add my thoughts on the HD650's.  I use them everyday at work, paired with a little dot mk iii and a pure i-20.  I love these cans.  Originally I didn't like how much the clamped, I felt they were uncomfortable.  I flexed the headband by hand, and I find it perfect now. I can wear these for hours and they're still comfortable.  I love the sound from these.  I've compared them on my home system, which is frostbite -> woo wa6-se to lcd-2's..  I love this set up, but I don't use it nearly as much as my work setup.  I've actually thought about selling my home setup because I'm quite content with my work setup, it sounds fantastic, smooth with controlled bass. I'm very happy with the HD650's.

post #6178 of 36844

i must applaud the 650s for the scalability they provide. all the way from stock cable direct to mp3 player (just to test) to 

DAC, amp and now an upgraded headphone cable. they sound absolutely beautiful at higher vols now. the new cable is 

the icing on the cake. 

 

 

post #6179 of 36844

One week on the HD650 and they seem better than the first day. One thing is for certain they are fantastic with the Decware CSP2 and even The Taboo a slight difference with the Taboo more forward slightly and more airy with the CSP2

post #6180 of 36844

Borrowed a HE-6 from a friend and compared to my HD650. He-6 has more details, better mid and treble. However, the upper treble is too high for most songs that I listened to. I listened to mostly current popular songs (pop, dance and soul genres). I have to use the EQ to lower down the upper treble. HE-6 is also lack of punchy and solid bass when compared to HD650. For the type of songs I am listening to, I still prefer HD650. As for comfort, HD650 feels more comfortable on the head. The pressure are more even on the head. I still haven't heard the LCD2/3 and HD800 yet. Until then, I am sticking with HD650.


By the way, HD650 sound awesome with Bifrost and Lyr and I still haven't upgrade the tubes, wires and fuse yet.
 

My setup: Laptop (flac) -> AudioQuest Forest USB cable -> Bifrost -> Lyr with stock 6BZ7 tubes -> HD650.

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