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Originally Posted by mac336 View Post

Should I go with the matrix cube or nuforce HDP amp/DAC for this headphone?



They both look nice, but i would go for the nuforce, I think it might be a better deal in the long run.

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Originally Posted by davidgotsa View Post

I don't know if the Lyr counts as a "proper" amp, but my HD650's are way behind my HE-500 on it. But yea, the HD650 is still an awesome headphone. 
 

 



Not exactly. I'm talking like a 1K or 2K amp and source. Something like the Woo Audio WA5 or the Cavalli Audio Liquid Fire and a nice transport or source. The HE-500 doesn't scale up nearly as well. However, when you put both the HE-500 and the HD650 on the same uber high end setup, the HD650 can sound just as good as the HE-500, IMHO.

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That's a very impractical situation, don't you think?  

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I would really like to hear that. Have you? 
 

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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post
However, when you put both the HE-500 and the HD650 on the same uber high end setup, the HD650 can sound just as good as the HE-500, IMHO.


 

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Personally I would avoid amp/DAC combos as DACs are more likely to get out of date (many vintage amps still sound great) and you have more options for upgrading a component at a time. That said, I've got a Total BitHead and it's versatile and compact and a convenient tool in a pinch.
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Originally Posted by Dan S View Post

Personally I would avoid amp/DAC combos as DACs are more likely to get out of date (many vintage amps still sound great) and you have more options for upgrading a component at a time. That said, I've got a Total BitHead and it's versatile and compact and a convenient tool in a pinch.


I agree, but in this case, the dac doesnt have to be used, they can just use the rca plugs and headphone jack and only use it as an amp if they get a new dac later right?

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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post



Not exactly. I'm talking like a 1K or 2K amp and source. Something like the Woo Audio WA5 or the Cavalli Audio Liquid Fire and a nice transport or source. The HE-500 doesn't scale up nearly as well. However, when you put both the HE-500 and the HD650 on the same uber high end setup, the HD650 can sound just as good as the HE-500, IMHO.


just wow!

i have a HD650 running balanced through matrix mini-i and quattro amp, i'm planning to buy an HE-500 too... but reading this, i might not anymore, since i'll be using the HE-500 on the same balanced setup as the HD650...

 

would you like to elaborate more on scalability of the two? :)

 

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I am getting my Sennheiser HD-650 headphones with both the stock cable and Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable later this afternoon today. They are used with less than 20 hours of burn in time so I will post my listening impressions and a full review in due time. These were once the top of the line reference cans by Sennheiser years ago and they are now considered to be "mid-fi" headphones today. That's okay with me as most of my home audio system can be considered to be "mid-fi" in today's high end audio market.

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I bought my Grace m902 when the HD 650 were my main headphones (now upgraded to the m903 and HD 800). L3000.gif

 

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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

That's a very impractical situation, don't you think?  


 

How is that impractical for every one? It all depends on what you already have don't you think?

 

For me I have a Beta 22, which for many it is one of the best amp out there. So the HD650 scalability over HE-500 is a very real concern for me.

 

That said, I went for the HE-500. As when I auditioned them, along with LCD2, I did find the orthos to be superior by a margin. That said, I did not audition them with my home setup, and I always wonder how would HD650 sound with my home setup. In the end I went with what sounded good to my ears at the time.

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Originally Posted by John Willett View Post

I bought my Grace m902 when the HD 650 were my main headphones (now upgraded to the m903 and HD 800). L3000.gif

 



Whats the difference between Grace m902 and m903? Hearable?

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My Sennheiser HD-650 headphones produce a beautiful tone especially with the Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable. The stock cable is also very good, but it can't quite match the sonic performance of the Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable. I am curious about the Cardas headphone replacement cable for the Sennheiser HD-650 headphones especially given the fact that I have Cardas Golden Reference Power and Interconnects. I think that there is some true synergy going on here with my home audio system. My Resolution Audio Opus 21, Ray Samuels Audio Emmeline HR-2, and Balanced Power Technology BP.Jr II Ultra along with Cardas Golden Reference plus the Sennheiser HD-650 with the Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable sound sweet together. I have never heard my .FLAC files sound so outstanding. I am waiting for my Audioquest Cinnamon 1.5 meter USB cable to be delivered to my home later this week. That should improve my weakest link between my System76 Bonobo Professional laptop and my Resolution Audio Opus 21 music system. I think that I will keep the Sennheiser HD-650 headphones for a few years before I decide to upgrade to the latest top of the line Sennheiser headphone at that time. These cans sound so neutral, accurate, tonally balanced, cohesive, and natural that I have a clear picture of the music. There is a little bit of warmth and sweetness added to the sound due to my cables, but it is not overpowering. These are by far the best headphones that I have ever owned and I only owned a few top of the line headphones from several years ago. I don't own any current generation top of the line headphones yet. The resolution and detail retrieval are as good as the Monster Cable Turbine Pro Copper IEMs which is quite amazing to me considering that these are full sized over the ear headphones. These are truly reference grade headphones and they are quite special if you have the proper audio system to drive them which I fortunately do so.

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Originally Posted by davidgotsa View Post

I would really like to hear that. Have you? 
 



 



Yes, I have. Some people have different opinions on what's truly high end, however.

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Originally Posted by chaosallied View Post


just wow!

i have a HD650 running balanced through matrix mini-i and quattro amp, i'm planning to buy an HE-500 too... but reading this, i might not anymore, since i'll be using the HE-500 on the same balanced setup as the HD650...

 

would you like to elaborate more on scalability of the two? :)

 



 

The HE-500 doesn't scale up as well as the HD650. And, judging from the amp and DAC you are using, it's a worthy upgrade from the HD650, as the Matrix Quattro and the Mini-I don't do the HD650 the highest scalability possible.

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Originally Posted by SixthFall View Post

I agree, but in this case, the dac doesnt have to be used, they can just use the rca plugs and headphone jack and only use it as an amp if they get a new dac later right?

I guess it depends how soon you upgrade. If it's a while, a combo amp/DAC probably won't retain the same value on the used market as separates. I hang onto stuff for a while and distrust the long-term reliability and value of digital gadgets/components, computers, etc.
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