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post #5536 of 36885

Just some thoughts..

I have the DL III in my main system and it's an awesome DAC. Powered by Rotel 15 series gear into Martin Logan Vista's.  Just a dream (for me at least).

Hooked up my Matrix Mini-i into my main system and was disappointed but do love the Matrix DAC/Amp combo for my 650's.

Heard the 650's through a Mac to the Matrix to a modded Little Dot III and it blew my mind even comparing the to the LCD 2's side by side.

Was considering the Woo Audio 6 but have decided on the Lyr (I got a little pissed at the TAS show when I went to the Woo booth to listen to the WA6 and they basically ignored me when I said that I had the HD650's.. I would have bought it on the spot if I got a decent demo and liked it).  Either way, even though I haven't heard it yet, I don't think the Bifrost will disappoint.

My end goal is to have the Bifrost/Lyr in the office and the Matrix in the bedroom.
 

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Originally Posted by Kiwikat View Post

 

Amp: Any of the Schiits, Woo Audio 6 (w/sophia) or 2

DAC: Schiit Bifrost, PS Audio DL III

 

Obviously there is a large price difference between these components.  Which of these would you suggest?  Would the DL III be a much bigger upgrade over the Bifrost?

 

I'm sort of leaning towards the WA6 and Bifrost, the mid-priced option...



 

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Originally Posted by Connnorrr View Post

What does constitute a big head? It seems like its hard to measure. Would you got by hat size? I always thought I had an above average head.

 



Contact your local phrenologist!!!

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Originally Posted by Connnorrr View Post

What does constitute a big head? It seems like its hard to measure. Would you got by hat size? I always thought I had an above average head.

 

In other news, I still really love my HD650 that I got for xmas, and I'm finally starting to compare it to my DT990. I was worried I would obsolete my DT990, but I think it'll still have its place with me. I haven't had a chance to compare since I first got the DT990s and my SR80i's, which didn't seem like a very fair comparison.


I'd definitely be in the big-head club for sure. I can't wear Snapbacks at the largest configuration, my graduation cap was off the charts, and my cousins always laugh at me when I try on their less than 8 fitted caps (59fifty). If you can't worm your way into a cap that everyone else fits, that's a big-head.

 

And yes, I have chips on my HD650 headbands, and this is after a year of use. The chips are worrying, but I don't think I'll ever sell my HD650s.

 

Anyway, I just ordered a Schiit Valhalla, though it is on backorder until the end of the month. The wait has gotten me anxious!

post #5539 of 36885
My paint is chipping too, all be it only a tiny bit. I don't have a large head though, I think mine is of below average size in fact.

Maybe it is caused by other factors such as temperature and humidity? Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if the older versions have a different paint job.
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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

My paint is chipping too, all be it only a tiny bit. I don't have a large head though, I think mine is of below average size in fact.
Maybe it is caused by other factors such as temperature and humidity? Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if the older versions have a different paint job.


Mine's pretty knew. The new drivers and all.

post #5541 of 36885

It just occurred to me that sometimes I set my HD650 down on my amp, which has the effect of the absolute top of the headband touching the warm metal surface. I know that sometimes after hours I notice the headphones are actually physically warm after this so I don't do it much any more, but I used to. That would actually make a lot of sense because I know that temperature change causes paint to peel IIRC. Still, it shouldn't happen if Sennheiser had painted it correctly, but at least it's a possible explanation. Not a big deal IMO in any case.

 

I think due to the location, flexing the headband and heating (in my case) are the only two things that make sense in the context of where we're finding the peeling. If it was for any other reason, I'd think it would show up in other places than just the very top of the underside of the headband.


Edited by ac500 - 1/17/12 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

It just occurred to me that sometimes I set my HD650 down on my amp, which has the effect of the absolute top of the headband touching the warm metal surface. I know that sometimes after hours I notice the headphones are actually physically warm after this so I don't do it much any more, but I used to. That would actually make a lot of sense because I know that temperature change causes paint to peel IIRC. Still, it shouldn't happen if Sennheiser had painted it correctly, but at least it's a possible explanation. Not a big deal IMO in any case.

 

I think due to the location, flexing the headband and heating (in my case) are the only two things that make sense in the context of where we're finding the peeling. If it was for any other reason, I'd think it would show up in other places than just the very top of the underside of the headband.

 

I think for me it's the flexing of the headband, since I use mine 5-10 times a day at the most. I have a custom wall mounted headphone each but the outer edges of the steel bar touch the top of my HD650's stand hole, and that's where the paint rubs, and since I have OCD, I just keep them on my Woo stand mainly because of the fact that it stays on the foam instead of the paint, and I'd rather have slightly imbedded foam that can heal than a permanently damaged headband. Has anyone ever tried to repaint their HD650's before?
 

 

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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

It just occurred to me that sometimes I set my HD650 down on my amp, which has the effect of the absolute top of the headband touching the warm metal surface. I know that sometimes after hours I notice the headphones are actually physically warm after this so I don't do it much any more, but I used to. That would actually make a lot of sense because I know that temperature change causes paint to peel IIRC. Still, it shouldn't happen if Sennheiser had painted it correctly, but at least it's a possible explanation. Not a big deal IMO in any case.

 

I think due to the location, flexing the headband and heating (in my case) are the only two things that make sense in the context of where we're finding the peeling. If it was for any other reason, I'd think it would show up in other places than just the very top of the underside of the headband.

Mine is - when not in use - always gently hanging from it's stand. The headband itself does not come into contact with the metal, only the cushions do.
Other than that the temperatures are fairly constant inside my room. Summers don't get very hot here so over a year time there is about 10-15K* temperature difference, with no rapid changes in temperature whatsoever. I do not think the body head from my head delivers any extreme temperature changes either.

In my case it's only on one side though (the front side).

On another note: repainting the headband should be easy, I think. Just sand off (or peel off) the paint, cover the drivers and paint using normal spray painting technique.

*Kelvin. To lazy to use degree sign.

Edited by Tilpo - 1/17/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post

 

Has anyone ever tried to repaint their HD650's before?


 

You know it!!! It started in this thread. If I say so myself, and judging from the pictures, it turned out quite well! It seemed to be a pretty involved process, though, lots of patience required. Here are the pics.

 

Sanded --> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd73/risetothetop/DSC00198.jpg

Finished --> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd73/risetothetop/DSC00201.jpg

 

EDIT: Tilpo, easier and safer to pull the drivers out first, IMO. 

post #5545 of 36885

so now are you gonna paint em?
candy apple green i say!

post #5546 of 36885
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Originally Posted by Rawrbington View Post

so now are you gonna paint em?
candy apple green i say!



I was just talking where the paint was chipping and such, but I wanted to go all out, I'd paint it cherry red like the HD800 form CanJam. biggrin.gif

post #5547 of 36885

Just got the HD650. My first "good" headphones. I'm enjoying every bit of them except for the fact that I can't listen to  badly recorded music anymore. 

post #5548 of 36885

Haha, well be glad you have HD650s, because they're some of the more gentle headphones when it comes to playing nice with bad recordings. More revealing headphones even further narrow down your collection of listenable recordings.

post #5549 of 36885

Yeah, my K701s completely destroy recordings that sound quite lovely on my 650s.

post #5550 of 36885
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

Haha, well be glad you have HD650s, because they're some of the more gentle headphones when it comes to playing nice with bad recordings. More revealing headphones even further narrow down your collection of listenable recordings.

I agree. I find the HD 650 actually quite forgiving.
My HD 25-1 II for example is less forgiving. But that might also be an illusion caused by the fact that it sucks at cymbals (maybe it's my Mini3).

But if you compare it to - let's say - iBuds, then 'yes'. They are still hi-fi, and that never works with bad recordings.
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