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Hey Hennyo - Nice job crapping on the SENNHEISER INVITES YOU TO BE A PART OF HISTORY THREAD. I wonder if they've decided to rescind the opportunity for some lucky Head-Fiers to preview their new headphones because of the highly (now nuked) inappropriate derail you instigated. You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

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Why are you bringing that in here? If you have a problem, tell me. Not the whole world..

 

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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

Hey Hennyo - Nice job crapping on the SENNHEISER INVITES YOU TO BE A PART OF HISTORY THREAD. I wonder if they've decided to rescind the opportunity for some lucky Head-Fiers to preview their new headphones because of the highly (now nuked) inappropriate derail you instigated. You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

 

 

 

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now im curious.

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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

Hey Hennyo - Nice job crapping on the SENNHEISER INVITES YOU TO BE A PART OF HISTORY THREAD. I wonder if they've decided to rescind the opportunity for some lucky Head-Fiers to preview their new headphones because of the highly (now nuked) inappropriate derail you instigated. You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

 

What happened?  I see the thread is closed.
 

 

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I love the net-like cover on the ear pad. (shown in my profile pic)

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Must respect privacy... fight curiosity

-gasp-

*collapses*

 

^hehe I've heard of someone ask "why do you have turbines on your headphones" XD


Edited by rezel - 12/2/11 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by rezel View Post

What do you guys use to amp your HD650?


Bottlehead Crack w/Speedball Upgrade and Hifiman EF5.  Both very nice with the 650's.  

 

NFB-12 HP out. . .too laid back/non-dynamic for me.

 

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I thought tubes are dark / laid back? I am confused how everyone seems to recommend tubes for the HD650 while simultaneously people say tubes are laid back.

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^ That's why you never take anyone's word for it here. Try to hear things for yourself.

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I cannot try this stuff out because I don't know of meets in my area and it's not like they carry tube amps in best buy :P

 

There shouldn't be confusion as to what laid back / dark sounds like, especially to HD650 owners.

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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

I cannot try this stuff out because I don't know of meets in my area and it's not like they carry tube amps in best buy :P

 

There shouldn't be confusion as to what laid back / dark sounds like, especially to HD650 owners.


I think it's all relative.  Tube amps may be marginally (or in some cases significantly) more laid back than certain SS amps, but it doesn't mean all tube amps are audibly laid back.  I don't know what the issue is exactly with the NFB-12 and HD650 - though my understanding is that the NFB-12 HP amp is more discrete than SS (since it doesn't use IC opamps).  I don't think it's a shortage of power.  But to my ears, wanting good (but not necessarily extreme) detail and dynamics, the NFB-12 isn't resolving or involving enough to me with the HD650.  I don't think it was so bad (IIRC, it's been awhile) with my DT880's, but those are more detailed, faster cans to begin with.

 

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Finally ordered mine last night after two months of careful planning haha. Can't wait :D

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Finally ordered mine last night after two months of careful planning haha. Can't wait :D



Congratulations!! You made the right choice :)

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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

I thought tubes are dark / laid back? I am confused how everyone seems to recommend tubes for the HD650 while simultaneously people say tubes are laid back.


They can run the whole gamut of possibilities from bright, warm, laid-back, forward, very detailed, extremely smooth, etc.  Depends on the tube.  As far as (mis)information on head-fi; it falls on you (in general) to exercise good judgement and look for as many informed opinions* as possible to find the truth/consensus.

 

Anyway, here's a more technical explanation of why it works:

 

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Originally Posted by skeptic View Post

From a design standpoint - as relatively efficient, high impedance cans, the HD650's pair beautifully with OTL tube amps - a topology that generally delivers ample voltage swing but not a lot of current.  Inefficient low impedance headphones, by contrast, need lots of current - which is easy to get out of solid state and/or hybrid designs.  This is why you don't want to try and drive planars, or even K701's for that matter, out of *most* OTL tube amps.  


* And here's an example of an informed opinion:

 

 

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Originally Posted by Xcalibur255 View Post

A person could make some generalizations about what the various tube brands sound like, but each person hears differently and it is just opinion.  The broad view is, if it helps narrow down choices for you, that RCA tubes tend to have a thick and warm sound, Tung Sol and GE tubes tend to have a neutral and balanced sound, Raytheons tend to have an accurate or slightly dry sound, and Sylvania tubes tend to have a lean and airy, clear sound which can be either bright or sweet sounding depending upon the specific tube.  These are big generalizations though so take them with a big grain of salt and trust your own ears.  Somebody else might disagree with part or all of what I just wrote because we each hear something unique.  Other brands are usually a rebranded version of one of the above, though there are exceptions.  Hope that helps a bit.

 

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Sphinxvc, that was a nice post and appreciated the excerpt from Xcalibur225 on general characteristics of tube brands.

 

Question for either of you: where does Mullard and Telefunken fit in, generally.  Those seem to be highly sought after and pricy - curious where they are positioned vs the brands you mentioned.

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