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post #4606 of 36836
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

The SRH940 is a very nice headphone, and as far as I can tell it continually holds up surprisingly well to my HD650, but it's such a different headphone it's really really hard to compare. I'd say to the extent of my hearing the SRH940 is very close to the HD650 in overall sound quality (but the HD650 is a bit better IMO) - but each has their own strong points.

 

SRH940:

 

The SRH940 is amazing at sounding very detailed, partly due to it's sparkly highs and excellent mids - so in some songs with female vocals the SRH940 is better than my HD650. The problem with the SRH940 is that it is a bit bright (only very slightly), and it lacks a full bodied bass impact compared to the HD650. The SRH940 has very nice and tight bass, but it does not extend as far or have nearly the impact of the HD650. Also the SRH940 being highly analytical can tend to sound comparatively "grainy" especially with imperfectly recorded songs, while the HD650 contains all the detail but with a smoother presentation.

 

HD650:

 

The HD650 has much better bass, and smoother mids, and definitely has all the detail and resolution of the SRH940 (more resolution IMO) but it's not as forward, so it's not the first thing you notice. What this means to someone who doesn't care to listen super-closely is this: The SRH940 will sound more impressive at first, but you'll get tired/bored of it quicker. The HD650 on the other hand has such great subtle detail and resolution, but it will just sound musical at first - and continually more impressive the more you listen to it.

 

 

For whatever reason, I almost always tend to go back to my HD650 than my SRH940. The only time I use the 940 is when I need isolation, want to listen to something where sparkly highs are important, or if I feel like listening analytically.

 

I just listened to Owl City "Galaxy" and Lights "My Boots" on my HD 650 and SRH 940. They sound excellent on both, but I ended up preferring the HD650 for Owl City. Edit: I originally said I preferred the HD650 for Lights but I'm actually starting to like the SRH940 better, I think due to the extra detail and crisp treble. Again I think it's kind of a preference thing - if you're in an analytical mood the SRH940 can be better. If you want to sit back and listen to the music the HD650 is often better.

 

Thanks once again for the extensive overview! For now I think I'm gonna stick with the HD650 once I get my birthday money but maybe later on down the road if I have extra money and want some closed headphones I will definitely consider the SRH940's! 
 

 

post #4607 of 36836

I second this review..thank you

post #4608 of 36836

I starting to really hate this hd650... it's making me close my eyes and do nothing but concentrate on my songs.  I finding it very hard to read the forums or post while listening to this headphone, they sound soooooo good.  tongue.gif

post #4609 of 36836
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Originally Posted by brokenthumb View Post

I starting to really hate this hd650... it's making me close my eyes and do nothing but concentrate on my songs.  I finding it very hard to read the forums or post while listening to this headphone, they sound soooooo good.  tongue.gif

 

That's the sure sign of a good headphone. That happened to me once when I was reviewing about five different headphones. Everytime I switched to my DJ100 I suddenly forgot I was supposed to be reviewing it! Kept getting too engrossed in the music. HD-600/HD-650/598 make it easy to do that too. Same with the K501.

 

With some headphones it's just so pointless to sit and try to analyze them every second.
 

 

post #4610 of 36836
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Originally Posted by brokenthumb View Post

I starting to really hate this hd650... it's making me close my eyes and do nothing but concentrate on my songs.  I finding it very hard to read the forums or post while listening to this headphone, they sound soooooo good.  tongue.gif



I bought the HD650's with the intent of using them while reading, which I normally do when listening to music through my speaker system.  But it's so much harder to concentrate with this highly articulated sound inside your head.  Just close your eyes, relax and enjoy.

 

post #4611 of 36836

A slightly different perspective:

 

First, the packaging

* Hideous corrugated metallish-look exterior that shows marks with rougher handling/postage. Bad choice number 1.

* No factory seals on packaging.

* Cheap-looking packaging (Japanese companies are farrrrr more talented and attentive to detail in packaging presentation)

* Stinky smell of inside of the box.

* Crude loose foam block inside the box (again, thoughtless and crude packaging for such a high-priced item).

* Hideous heavy hinged hard box with cheap-looking silverish veneer pasted on it is a waste of resources and weight, with little practical relevance (a regular cardboard box with a headphone carry pouch included would have been so much better - and budget headphones come with these!)

* Packaging really didn't impress me one bit. Bad first impressions are no good. Sennheiser can do far better here.

 

Sound

* Pretty good sound but perhaps not as 'even' with mids / treble as it might be (I think I still preferred my old HD 565 Ovation for neutrality despite the unforgivable crappy cable design)

* I want to try the HD600 but I think it suffers from the same crappy cable design and it's pretty hard to get at reputable retailers now.

* For all I know the HD650 could have the same crappy cable problems!

 

Headphone construction

* Gloss is worse than matte, in my opinion.

* Headphone plastic looks and feels a bit cheap to me.

* Adjusting headband size could be a tad easier. Some numbered markings on the side when adjusting the headband (like the Sony MDR-V6 has) would make headband adjustments more precise with less guesswork.

 

Long story short

These are pretty good-sounding headphones suitable for just about any music you care to throw at them.

Comfort is decent.

 

The Japanese can do packaging presentation so much better. They can do construction better. And smell better :)

Annoyance in sound is at a minimum, but they do sound a little brighter than what I would like.

I think if I had a chance to listen to the HD 600 that I would prefer it over the HD 650, like I've heard some state.

Maybe one day I'll lay my ears on them but I'm scared about crappy cable design.

 

Basically, in my experience, I they could do with a little more neutrality (sound just a touch less bright).

I think I got more enjoyment with ye olde HD 565 Ovation. Which probably shares some of the same parts as the HD 600, I'm not sure.

But these are pretty small nit-picks. The HD 650 is pretty good, and at this price naturally light years ahead of Sennheiser's terrible HD555/ HD595 line.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by brooce - 10/22/11 at 12:25pm
post #4612 of 36836

> * Cheap-looking packaging (Japanese companies are farrrrr more talented and attentive to detail in packaging presentation)

 

From the packaging, the packaging of my AD2000 ($800 retail) looked like you'd find on cheap retail store racks (cardboard box, hole in the top to stick it on one of those rods).

 

> The HD 650 is pretty good,

 

I'm curious what you would call "really good"? Anything in a similar price range? (Just curious)

post #4613 of 36836
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

> * Cheap-looking packaging (Japanese companies are farrrrr more talented and attentive to detail in packaging presentation)

 

From the packaging, the packaging of my AD2000 ($800 retail) looked like you'd find on cheap retail store racks (cardboard box, hole in the top to stick it on one of those rods).

 

> The HD 650 is pretty good,

 

I'm curious what you would call "really good"? Anything in a similar price range? (Just curious)

 

Packaging
I'd actually prefer a plain brown cardboard box to be honest.

I hate the waste of resources here. And the box stinks! (literally). Smell the inside of it.

 

A cheap veneer solid box doesn't impress me, particularly since the box isn't very practical as a daily home for the headphones when they are not used, in my opinion (having to neatly put the cable in that foam hole just so I can close it properly is crappy). So it doesn't even serve as a useful daily box. A pouch for it with a far cheaper box would be far more preferable.

 

For just under 360 US dollars (which is how much I paid), it's a terrible way to package headphones, in my opinion. I'm spoiled on some other Japanese headphones that always impress me with their packaging. Anyway, that's not really a big deal. I just think: It costs more to deliver this way, and it's pretty useless and poorly thought-out and makes me actually think less of the headphones than I would if it were in a plain cardboard box...but enough said about that.

 

Sound

The sound is very good but I think I still prefer my old HD 565 Ovation, which were actually less expensive than these were. That's my frame of reference. But it's been ages since I listened to them (they broke). Otherwise these are excellent, but you expect that at this price. At least I do. I expect no compromises.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #4614 of 36836
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Originally Posted by brooce View Post
 

<snip>

 

And the box stinks! (literally). Smell the inside of it.

 

<snip>



That's curious.  What does it smell like?  Are you smelling mildew?  Did you buy them new?  If so, from a registered dealer?

 

(Also, I think you might be the first person who thought the 650s were too bright.)

post #4615 of 36836

Decided these would be my next headphones. Just about amping.

I have the Scythe Kama Bay Amplifier which i use for my Q accoustics 2010.
Anyone know if it would have enough power?

post #4616 of 36836
Quote:
Originally Posted by brooce View Post

A slightly different perspective:

 

First, the packaging

* Hideous corrugated metallish-look exterior that shows marks with rougher handling/postage. Bad choice number 1.

* No factory seals on packaging.

* Cheap-looking packaging (Japanese companies are farrrrr more talented and attentive to detail in packaging presentation)

* Stinky smell of inside of the box.

* Crude loose foam block inside the box (again, thoughtless and crude packaging for such a high-priced item).

* Hideous heavy hinged hard box with cheap-looking silverish veneer pasted on it is a waste of resources and weight, with little practical relevance (a regular cardboard box with a headphone carry pouch included would have been so much better - and budget headphones come with these!)

* Packaging really didn't impress me one bit. Bad first impressions are no good. Sennheiser can do far better here.

 

Sound

* Pretty good sound but perhaps not as 'even' with mids / treble as it might be (I think I still preferred my old HD 565 Ovation for neutrality despite the unforgivable crappy cable design)

* I want to try the HD600 but I think it suffers from the same crappy cable design and it's pretty hard to get at reputable retailers now.

* For all I know the HD650 could have the same crappy cable problems!

 

Headphone construction

* Gloss is worse than matte, in my opinion.

* Headphone plastic looks and feels a bit cheap to me.

* Adjusting headband size could be a tad easier. Some numbered markings on the side when adjusting the headband (like the Sony MDR-V6 has) would make headband adjustments more precise with less guesswork.

 

Long story short

These are pretty good-sounding headphones suitable for just about any music you care to throw at them.

Comfort is decent.

 

The Japanese can do packaging presentation so much better. They can do construction better. And smell better :)

Annoyance in sound is at a minimum, but they do sound a little brighter than what I would like.

I think if I had a chance to listen to the HD 600 that I would prefer it over the HD 650, like I've heard some state.

Maybe one day I'll lay my ears on them but I'm scared about crappy cable design.

 

Basically, in my experience, I they could do with a little more neutrality (sound just a touch less bright).

I think I got more enjoyment with ye olde HD 565 Ovation. Which probably shares some of the same parts as the HD 600, I'm not sure.

But these are pretty small nit-picks. The HD 650 is pretty good, and at this price naturally light years ahead of Sennheiser's terrible HD555/ HD595 line.

 

 

 

 

 

 



been away a while... is this still the 650 appreciation thread?

 

nice

 

 

 

post #4617 of 36836
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

been away a while... is this still the 650 appreciation thread?

 

nice

 

 

 



LOL, from the smell in the box my guess is that he has a pair of water/chemical damaged headphones.

post #4618 of 36836

Well, the HD650 is in my avatar, so obviously I appreciate it. biggrin.gif

post #4619 of 36836

After years of use I'm still trying to figure out if they are bright or the treble is just crap. Either way I have to turn down the treble.   \O.O/

 

I love them to death I just can't use them without an EQ. 

post #4620 of 36836

I find them too boring because of their warmth and lack of treble....
 

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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

After years of use I'm still trying to figure out if they are bright or the treble is just crap. Either way I have to turn down the treble.   \O.O/

 

I love them to death I just can't use them without an EQ. 



 

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