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post #436 of 36851
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
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But if Senns indeed started shoving 580 drivers into HD650 that would explain why yours sound identically bright. Glad mine has HD650 drivers.
I have noted that a number of people on this thread are using DarkVoice amps with their Hd650s.
I ordered a Darkvoice 332 amp from Jasmine in China via ebay 5 days ago. I have yet to receive order confirmation, tracking information, or any response to 2 emails that I have sent them via ebay.
Is this typical for Jasmine, and at what point should I realistically get concerned about the lack of any repsonse?
I have ordered audio equipment from China before and communication can be a challenge at best. But 5 days is a while with no response at all.
Any feedback concerning Jasmine would be greatly appreciated.
post #437 of 36851

Very Unusual...

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Originally Posted by wsoxfan View Post
I have noted that a number of people on this thread are using DarkVoice amps with their Hd650s.
I ordered a Darkvoice 332 amp from Jasmine in China via ebay 5 days ago. I have yet to receive order confirmation, tracking information, or any response to 2 emails that I have sent them via ebay.
Is this typical for Jasmine, and at what point should I realistically get concerned about the lack of any repsonse?
I have ordered audio equipment from China before and communication can be a challenge at best. But 5 days is a while with no response at all.
Any feedback concerning Jasmine would be greatly appreciated.
That's very unusual - they usually respond within hours, or a day, at most.

I think its time to send them a final email to let them know, if they don't respond within 24 hrs, you will cancel your order, and request a refund from your credit card company... and that you will "publicize" their lack of response on all US audio forums (e.g. Headfi, AudioReview, Audiogon, AudioAsylum, etc.)... as well as in their eBay Feedback.

You can also try PayPal... but my experience with PayPal is they don't protect the buyer, or refund their money - their "Buyer Protection Plan" is a ruse.

My credit card vendor, on the other hand, is very reliable.

By the way... I suspect... they've just been on vacation / holiday, etc. It seems they've just a small operation (e.g. one man) and likely suffer "backlogs" when they are away.
post #438 of 36851
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post
That's because... they were different... and sounded different.

There is no question the "old" versions sound much different than the "new" versions - that's a simple fact that I, as well as, others have established... no matter what some skeptics "feel" about it.

Again... "you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."

A variable, which will impact the sound of the Senns greatly, is your realtive set ups (source, amps, cables, etc.). Obviously, I have a great set up, which mates supremely well with Senns, and brings out their best sound. Not all set ups permit that. If you don't have an equivalent set up, you're not going to hear the "real Senns," or the same Senns that I'm hearing.

I agree here. The senns 650 are the most scalable headphones I have ever heard. The sound REALLY depends on the components they are working with. I bought my sennheiser 650 about a year and a half ago, hence they should be the "old" version (in fact, I haven’t heard the new version to tell you an opinion on their sound, if a new version exists). Before I buy my supratek, I had a Russ Andrews HP-1 headphone amp. The sound was a bit veiled at the beginning, when I was using the senns with their stock cable. I changed the cable to an equinox and the one that goes from DAC to amp with a Kimber Kable Hero. The sound was brighter, the much-pronounced veil was gone, but again I felt something was wrong with the sound. It was still a bit laid back. After trying my new pre, it was like I changed headphones. Yes there was some sweetness to the sound (due to the tubes) but NO veil at all. We are talking about sound quality that can be only compared to the sound of a speaker system a friend of mine has and it consist of a pair of Magnepan 20.1 speakers powered by two No 33H Mark levinson monoblocks. I have compared them also with the Grado GS-1000 both in my old system and in my new. The grados sounded superior on the old amp to the stock cabled senns. Comparing them again to the new system, the sound of Grados, was improved, but the improvement of the sound of Senns was so big that I can say they outperformed them. They achieved this "space between the instruments" the grados have, and their highs are a bit more laid back than the grados in a way that to my ears sound much more natural and enjoyable. When I first bought the senns, I didn’t have an amp at all and tried to run them out of a modified X-Fi sound blaster. I was always complaining about the "veil" I tried to operate them without the inner protecting foam pads and did various alchemies trying to improve the sound. Now I use them with the inner foams on. So a word of experience: The better the equipment you use, the better the sound you will get from the 650. I feel I have not reached their limits. And I am talking about a system that costs a bit more than 5000$ (just for headphones... I know.. Im a sick and hungry student :P). Next step to my equipment upgrade is a good turntable, phono stage and cartridge. I am not thinking at all about changing headphones. I just love them.
post #439 of 36851
I got my HD 650 burning in right now - by a cmoy mint amp LOL!
My MPX3 will be here thursday and ill start my listning sessions then .
post #440 of 36851
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post
That's very unusual - they usually respond within hours, or a day, at most.

I think its time to send them a final email to let them know, if they don't respond within 24 hrs, you will cancel your order, and request a refund from your credit card company... and that you will "publicize" their lack of response on all US audio forums (e.g. Headfi, AudioReview, Audiogon, AudioAsylum, etc.)... as well as in their eBay Feedback.

You can also try PayPal... but my experience with PayPal is they don't protect the buyer, or refund their money - their "Buyer Protection Plan" is a ruse.

My credit card vendor, on the other hand, is very reliable.

By the way... I suspect... they've just been on vacation / holiday, etc. It seems they've just a small operation (e.g. one man) and likely suffer "backlogs" when they are away.
You were right about Alexander, alias "Jasmine". He emailed with profuse apologies, explaining that he had been "travelling" and simply forgot to email me back. I should be getting my 332 within the next couple of days.
Thanks for the quick response.
post #441 of 36851
I've not even had my HD650s and Apogee Duet for a week yet and they're all I think about, desperate to get home, when I'm at work! I absolutely love these headphones
post #442 of 36851
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Originally Posted by CPOliver View Post
I've not even had my HD650s and Apogee Duet for a week yet and they're all I think about, desperate to get home, when I'm at work! I absolutely love these headphones

like a kid with a new toy ...

dont worry - it will pass and youll have interest with other toys . just like kids too - you'll eventually have a flavor of the month toy .......
post #443 of 36851

Hd650 with DarkVoice 332

My new Darkvoice 332 has just arrived at the door. I am about to unwrap it and hook it up to my HD650s. Should prove really interesting since I already love the sound coming out of my new 650s.
I will post some initial impressions later today.
I got my Darkvoice all the way from China in 4 days. Pretty amazing!!
post #444 of 36851

HD650s with Darkvoice 332 -- very first impressions

Right out of the box with my new Darkvoice 332 paired up with my almost new HD650s. No burn in first impressions.
I should note that I ordered the Darkvoice because I am searching for that elusive reaction: "Yeh!! A match made in heaven!" "A pairing good enough for the gods!!!"
I had a reaction close to that the first time I paired my ibasso boa with my Shure SE530s. The pairing between the 650s and the boa, although really nice, was just not quite that magic combination that my soul was craving for.
First up, no fooling around, SACD version of one of the best pieces of music ever recorded, Miles "In a Silent Way".
Wow!!!!! The search is over! The pairing is simply amazing. The 3 keyboards played by Herbie, Chic, and Joe interwine and flow together like a vast river of notes. Distinct, but interweaved.
John's extended guitar notes shimmer before they slowing decay into the backround.
The drums thunder and I can visualize the cymbals as the come together and part.
The bass is nice, but this music is not a particularly good test for bass.
The SACD version of "Brothers in Arms" is next to check out bass.
The typing is taking away from my absolute immersion in the music.
Even without burn in, the Darkvoice 332 is proving to be exactly what I was looking for.
I can already see my Stax Lambdas frowning with sonic dissapproval as they resign themselves to playing second fiddle at least for a little while.
post #445 of 36851
That's great wsoxfan!!! Enjoy your new... love!!! I am sure that it will give you countless hours of enjoyment!! Congrats!!
post #446 of 36851
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Originally Posted by wsoxfan View Post
I can already see my Stax Lambdas frowning with sonic dissapproval as they resign themselves to playing second fiddle at least for a little while.
Are the highs getting anywhere near the Stax with this setup? At first I was unsure of the Stax sound but I've grown accustomed to it and now enjoy it quite a bit, but I keep wondering how a Darkvoice/Sennheiser pairing sounds in comparison.
post #447 of 36851
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post
Are the highs getting anywhere near the Stax with this setup? At first I was unsure of the Stax sound but I've grown accustomed to it and now enjoy it quite a bit, but I keep wondering how a Darkvoice/Sennheiser pairing sounds in comparison.
Too early to give any kind of definitive answer. First off, I am totally in love with the pairing of the Darkvoice with the Senn 650s so my objectivity in making comparisons is a little off. That will have to wait until I can take the time to make some real time A/B comparison.
Second, my HD650s are not completely burnt in yet. And my darkvoice has about 6 hours on it. I will wait on any A/B comparisons until I have at least 100 hours on the Darkvoice/650s pairing and even then it will be tentative.
I an a big fan of the "Stax" sound and have been for decades. In terms of pure musical reproduction, you just cant beat it. On the other hand, as I have stated in lots of posts, their is a lot more to music than "pure musical reproduction".
On some of the sublter aspects of the overall sound experience is where the Darkvoice/650 pairing is right there with, and possibly a tad ahead of the "Stax" sound.
Overall, I am beginning to conclude that I just like the texture and feel of the new pairing better. It is warmer and more liquid. It is also helped by having an overall more complete bass sound than the Stax.
The one thing I have always felt about the "Stax" sound is that partly because of the incredible accuracy of detail reproduction in the mids and highs it literally carries the listener away into another world.
The Darkvoice/650 combo had that same effect but manages it with a very different sound.
Which will eventually emerge as my overall favorite phones. Much to early to tell. One thing for sure, this is the first time that Stax as my clear favorite has been seriously challenged.
The two sounds are both so good, yet so different, that I may never be able to clearly choose between them. Luckily I don't have to.
post #448 of 36851
gahhh i'm pretty envious since my hd650's are only powered by my puny d2 boa. 399.99 plus Shipping is alittle too much for my wallet with school just around the corner..
post #449 of 36851
I've finally got mine in fully-balanced setup with the HRDB and the rumours for once are true -- these are remarkable phones when run balanced, detailed, spacious, quick and articulate in the bass. I'm very very pleased with these.

best,

o
post #450 of 36851
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Originally Posted by Tomikans View Post
gahhh i'm pretty envious since my hd650's are only powered by my puny d2 boa. 399.99 plus Shipping is alittle too much for my wallet with school just around the corner..
It is good to have goals. Things that we aspire for but are a little beyond out reach. The boa I have works very well with the 650s. The Darkvoice just gives the music that little extra attack and impact with lots of power in reserve. I got my Darkvoice from Jasmine in China for an "offer" accepted of $380 plus shipping. But you are right that is still a lot of money.
My son is a college student who loves his music almost as much as I do, but if he opted for a Darkvoice type expense at this point in his young life, I would tell him to think again.
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