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post #4261 of 37370
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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

They really do excel at low-volume listening. Moreso than any other headphone in my lineup. I know that's a quality that is traditionally associated with Grados, but the HD-650s are positively smooth at any volume (no doubt because they're tuned among other things for dynamic, full-range orchestral music reproduction - it wouldn't really do if you lost all detail in a quiet passage and had to turn it up only to be deafened by a crescendo!).

 

I am fairly certain I have the pre-white-material versions. I ... am not convinced, and I guess there will be skeptics, but - I am not convinced that there should be an expected difference between a darker colored but acoustically transparent thin material and a lighter colored but acoustically transparent thin material. It seems too coincidental to me - they've switched to a lighter color and it brightens the sound? I just don't see it. It's so thin, thinner than the finest pop filter I've ever seen in a studio, maybe there is some material quality they like about the new stuff but in terms of sound I sincerely doubt that the stuff that seems to act primarily to keep crud out of the enclosure has an "unveiling" impact on the sound. It's all too convenient, if you'll pardon my repetition. If I painted the whole headphone a lighter color it wouldn't sound brighter; unless the driver or the sort of acoustic honeycomb structure of the mounting/enclosure itself has changed I don't think there's any basis for a sonic difference (and there's plenty reasonable doubt, in my opinion, given that comparisons would mostly be between older, more used headphones and newer, less used ones). And why wouldn't Sennheiser advertise an improvement, were it the case? I just don't grasp it, I'm sorry, no offense to anyone's subjective perception intended at all.


The damping material surrounding the driver/capsule has been changed from black acoustic silk to silver acoustic metal mesh. I have heard both at some length and the newer model has a brighter sound (across the spectrum) with both the 600s and the 650s.

Some prefer one, some the other but the description about the different material is mentioned by Sennheiser. I remember reading it, I just cannot find where at the moment.

 

post #4262 of 37370
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post




You should hear them on a 3 channel B22 or GS-1. wink.gif

 


Or balanced with even a LD MKVII+ (or other LD tube amp) if you're on a budget.

 


Edited by Hellenback - 8/30/11 at 5:06pm
post #4263 of 37370

I love these headphones...

 

More and more over time, it seems. Maybe I'm experiencing burn-in (whether physical or psychological)... whatever the explanation, this is certainly one purchase I don't regret :)

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Seems like someone "borrowed" my avatar. wink.gif

post #4265 of 37370

Haha oops. I think I got it from a google search for Sennheiser HD 650 IIRC. Hmm I guess I'll try to find a different one :)


Edited by ac500 - 9/1/11 at 12:35am
post #4266 of 37370

Nooo. Don't do that. I encourage the use of it. :)

post #4267 of 37370

Ok, thanks :). I'm curious where you even find these (seems so specific, did you make them?) I heard that there were japanese magazines or something of these, but that's interesting that they would have them on specific headphones (if so)


Edited by ac500 - 9/1/11 at 11:18am
post #4268 of 37370
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post

The HD650s just sound real to me, and while a component of that is definitely the fact that I've had them for the longest, I firmly believe that they have an amazingly balanced and natural presentation. 

 

Mr. Jeff Buckley (or not), I totally agree, I compare all my other headphones to what I hear with my HD650 when I listen, I just can't not do it. They play very nice with all the kinds of music that I listen to, I've never been left wanting more in the presentation, despite what I throw at it :)


I agree completely.  They sound more real than my 880s, T-1s and 701s (which, IMHO, are a lousy pair of headphones).

 

post #4269 of 37370

I plan on buying the HD650.

 

This would be my first Hi-Fi headphone and I also need a source.

 

I heard the E9+E7 goes great with the HD650, but I don't care for the portable option, its not leaving my desk.

 

Is there anything better in that price range? It does not to be an Amp/DAC put together, I don't mind buying 2 separate ones.

post #4270 of 37370
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Originally Posted by jTizMLG View Post

I plan on buying the HD650.

 

This would be my first Hi-Fi headphone and I also need a source.

 

I heard the E9+E7 goes great with the HD650, but I don't care for the portable option, its not leaving my desk.

 

Is there anything better in that price range? It does not to be an Amp/DAC put together, I don't mind buying 2 separate ones.

The NFB-12 is the only DAC/amp that comes to mind in that price range. http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB12/NFB12EN.htm
 

 

post #4271 of 37370

As I said before, it does not need to be an Amp/DAC put together.

 

It could be separate.

 

And is the NFB-12 better then the E9+E7?


Edited by jTizMLG - 9/1/11 at 4:26pm
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NFB-12 as I understand has better quality components for the price, by far. However people say it has a darker sound which when combined with the HD 650 would result in a doubly dark sound. That said, I have an NFB-12 + HD 650 and I just love it. Granted, I'm not very experienced since the only other half descent thing I've owned was a HD 280 Pro unamped, so take that for what its worth.

post #4273 of 37370
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

Ok, thanks :). I'm curious where you even find these (seems so specific, did you make them?) I heard that there were japanese magazines or something of these, but that's interesting that they would have them on specific headphones (if so)



 

These do come out of a Japanese art book called Headphone Musume(Girl). I have a copy somewhere myself.

post #4274 of 37370
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

NFB-12 as I understand has better quality components for the price, by far. However people say it has a darker sound which when combined with the HD 650 would result in a doubly dark sound. That said, I have an NFB-12 + HD 650 and I just love it. Granted, I'm not very experienced since the only other half descent thing I've owned was a HD 280 Pro unamped, so take that for what its worth.



 

The trickiest part for me was finding an amp powerful enough to drive the HD650s properly and with enough color.

post #4275 of 37370

I doubt the sound presented by the NFB-12 would be darker than that heard through the FiiO combo. It's usually described as warm rather than dark, when contrasting its wm8741 dac to the supposedly brighter presentation of the sabre chip used in its sibling the NFB-11.

 

If the NFB-12 shares the same signature as the Fun (as stated by the Audio-GD), you should hear a transparent and balanced sound that greatly compliments the HD650's strengths.


Edited by olor1n - 9/1/11 at 8:49pm
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