[maslinar]

I recently got 650s. From all of the reviews I have read here I expected dark sounding headphones.But on my Aune(cheap hp amp +dac) with changed opamps these do not sound dark at all,it powers them nicely.Compared to my previous headphones Denon D1001 and Grado SR125 they are absolutely amazing.Such clarity and the bass..wow...it goes deep,highs are amazing,so clear.They are very comfortable,I thought my Denons were comfortable...Thank you Head-Fi.I am satisfied...for now...until upgraditis sets in...then I lurk Head-Fi once more.

 

[LugBug1]

 

Through my current setup, I prefer the HD650 to the LCD-2.

 


 
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That is expected, no?  You spent months tweaking this setup for the 650's abilities and sound signature.  Tweak on dude.  

Predictably I've picked up on this, but only because I've got these in my sights as my next purchase. Problem is though sphinxvc, he is using a Lyr which is supposed to be great with the LCD2's? how much tweaking should he need to do? He has different tubes. Interconnects aren't going to change the sound dramatically. If I pay 3 times the amount of the 650's I want to hear how the "LCD2's blow the 650's out of the water" Is it a case of learning to like their sound as in "mental burn in"?
 
Not having a go, I've read so many good things about the LCD2's thats why I'm considering them, but I'm not rich. My personal opinion still stands that yes they may be better technically but are they worth that kind of money over the 650's? There seems to be a lot of people exaggerating how good they actually are; they have the best and they want to talk about there superiority at every chance as if they are in some kind of elite club, when infact they have actually spent a fortune on a headphone that isn't much better than one that is a third of the price.     

 

[jtaylor991]

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Predictably I've picked up on this, but only because I've got these in my sights as my next purchase. Problem is though sphinxvc, he is using a Lyr which is supposed to be great with the LCD2's? how much tweaking should he need to do? He has different tubes. Interconnects aren't going to change the sound dramatically. If I pay 3 times the amount of the 650's I want to hear how the "LCD2's blow the 650's out of the water" Is it a case of learning to like their sound as in "mental burn in"?
 
Not having a go, I've read so many good things about the LCD2's thats why I'm considering them, but I'm not rich. My personal opinion still stands that yes they may be better technically but are they worth that kind of money over the 650's? There seems to be a lot of people exaggerating how good they actually are; they have the best and they want to talk about there superiority at every chance as if they are in some kind of elite club, when infact they have actually spent a fortune on a headphone that isn't much better than one that is a third of the price.     

I thought the LCD2 used like MiniXLR or something, not just a headphone jack
 

 

[SenorParsley]

I just read the "Trio" review of the 580/600/650 over at Headfonia and I'm really torn between the 600 and the 650. According to Mike the 600 is a faster headphone but only in some songs will the difference make or break the listening experience. He also says that the 650 is superior in the lower end range. The first point draws me toward the 600 while the second brings me closer to the 650. Now my musical taste is all over the place and I don't want to be disappointed. 
 
The HD650 is what I was originally planning on as my next headphone upgrade but now I'm on the edge. Could you guys help me out a tad?

 

[sphinxvc]

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Predictably I've picked up on this, but only because I've got these in my sights as my next purchase. Problem is though sphinxvc, he is using a Lyr which is supposed to be great with the LCD2's? how much tweaking should he need to do? He has different tubes. Interconnects aren't going to change the sound dramatically. If I pay 3 times the amount of the 650's I want to hear how the "LCD2's blow the 650's out of the water" Is it a case of learning to like their sound as in "mental burn in"?
 
Not having a go, I've read so many good things about the LCD2's thats why I'm considering them, but I'm not rich. My personal opinion still stands that yes they may be better technically but are they worth that kind of money over the 650's? There seems to be a lot of people exaggerating how good they actually are; they have the best and they want to talk about there superiority at every chance as if they are in some kind of elite club, when infact they have actually spent a fortune on a headphone that isn't much better than one that is a third of the price.     

Not to beat a dead horse, but the LCD-2s are in diminishing returns territory.  And those diminishing returns can be perceived as stark or subtle, depending on your point of view, tastes, and priorities.  Saying those who perceive the difference stark are exaggerating is the same as saying their POV, tastes and priorities are wrong or irrelevant.
 
As far as ancillaries, you can't confuse the flexibility of the LCD-2s to play nice with mid-tier gear with it's potential.  They're capable of more than what mid-tier can provide.

 

[metalsonata]

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I thought the LCD2 used like MiniXLR or something, not just a headphone jack
 

The LCD2's cable is detachable from the cups via MiniXLR, but you can get cables for it that terminate in 1/4th and balanced XLR. Is that what you mean?
 

 

[LugBug1]

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Not to beat a dead horse, but the LCD-2s are in diminishing returns territory.  And those diminishing returns can be perceived as stark or subtle, depending on your point of view, tastes, and priorities.  Saying those who perceive the difference stark are exaggerating is the same as saying their POV, tastes and priorities are wrong or irrelevant.
 
As far as ancillaries, you can't confuse the flexibility of the LCD-2s to play nice with mid-tier gear with it's potential.  They're capable of more than what mid-tier can provide.

Thanks for that and appreciated. Just, the LCD2's out of an iphone are apparently better than the 650's out of a good midfi set up..? this on another thread and by the usual suspects.
 
totally understand the deadhorse, its just some of the claims have always rang a little suspect with me.  

 

[jtaylor991]

Yeah. I learned something. Not having a 3.5mm or 1/4in jack was the main think keeping me from the LCD-2s over the Denon D7000s, but now I'm set on 650s
 
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The LCD2's cable is detachable from the cups via MiniXLR, but you can get cables for it that terminate in 1/4th and balanced XLR. Is that what you mean?
 

 

 

[metalsonata]

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Yeah. I learned something. Not having a 3.5mm or 1/4in jack was the main think keeping me from the LCD-2s over the Denon D7000s, but now I'm set on 650s
 


 

You should get all three, and let me know which one is the best. :-D
 
I am really digging my 650s though. Haven't even had them for a whole week but I've already got a good niche in my music collection for them, and I'm throwing new stuff at them every day. I was really pleased to hear them behave so gentlemanly with some of my lo-fi/poorly recorded stuff, whereas my K701 positively cannibalizes the poor things. I don't think it's because the 650 is any less detailed--it's just warmer and has a heftier bottom end to it, which really helps smooth out even the crackliest and tinniest of recordings, I find. Not to say it's performing miracles or anything; garbage in still equals garbage out. But still, I thought it worth noting.
 

 

[jtaylor991]

I will only get either the LCD2 or the D7k, not both, and that would be at least a year off before I even consider it. Guys will I like 650s for rock, and maybe jazz? I am about to buy some and need some reassuring comments, if ya know what I mean.

 

[skeptic]

Great for jazz, in my opinion.  With rock, it depends a bit more on the sound you're looking for.  If you want guitars to really scream, the HD650's might not give you exactly what you're looking for.  If you like a meatier, slightly bassier presentation though, they'll be right up your ally.

 

[LugBug1]

 
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I will only get either the LCD2 or the D7k, not both, and that would be at least a year off before I even consider it. Guys will I like 650s for rock, and maybe jazz? I am about to buy some and need some reassuring comments, if ya know what I mean.

With a half decent set up, both rock and jazz sound fantastic with the 650's. Instrument separation is fab and you're fave solo's both guitar and sax will sound real and never harsh.

  but most of all you will enjoy the music!!
 

 

[jtaylor991]

What do you mean by scream? I just want everything to have good quality. Listen to the strings be plucked, the notes played cleanly, and have a bit more bass than neutral, and not sharp highs, like a warm sound, just how I like it. I like a little bit more weight than usual in the low end, since I still have a tiny tiny bit of basshead in me from my pre-hifi years From what I've read even on this thread the 650s should do this fine.
 
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Great for jazz, in my opinion.  With rock, it depends a bit more on the sound you're looking for.  If you want guitars to really scream, the HD650's might not give you exactly what you're looking for.  If you like a meatier, slightly bassier presentation though, they'll be right up your ally.

 

 

[skeptic]

Based on the description you just provided, I think you'll love them 

 

[DrHouse]

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Well one thing I have found is that a lot of songs from the 80's I'm finding have incredibly good sound quality (high fidelity), whereas a lot of new pop songs (which I don't particularly like anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter) are really comparatively cruddy.
 
It's actually pretty disappointing. You'd think in 2011 they'd have improved recording equipment, not the other way. I think it might be due to excessive electronic filters and autotuning maybe, but I don't know anything about the industry.
 
All I know is that some 80's music I'm listening to absolutely blows away a surprising lot of modern songs (but not all) in terms of sound detail and resolution.

 
The most surprising thing to me is the amount of distortion present. Through the HD650 I find listening to some 2011 chart songs unbearable. Even through crappy apple buds, I'm sure its still present. Take '6 foot 7 foot' by lil wayne as example. ( A bad song i know) His voice is peaking the whole way through.