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post #3436 of 19516
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post




I sold 2 different versions of the DT990s for the HD650s. The Beyers were my first high-end cans, so they had a special place in my system. As much as I enjoyed some aspects of the Beyer sound, the Senns were just better technically and possessed a more natural tone.

 

 

I own both as well and I do like both at the same time. The 650 is the more relaxed and fun one, while imo the DT990/600 has the even better soundstage, separation and the more analytical sound.

Bass is good but different on both (deeper on 990s?), and then there's the Beyer treble... I think they're both great and complementary

 

You can read all about their soundsignatures in Zombie_x's great topic: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/513393/guide-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990-models-more

Unfortunately he's only comparing it to the HD600, but still might help.
 

 

post #3437 of 19516
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Originally Posted by 9pintube View Post

boirefish, Can you get Amazon to send you some........
 

 

Wish I could get em from Amazon, but Amazon isn't too keen on us Australians =P

Oh well, in time, the FS/FT section will work out for me :)
 

 

post #3438 of 19516

coming from beyerdynamic dt880 600 Ohm (that I like a lot) there is someone that could compare the bass with senn 650? How is this one? how in the sub bass?

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Shah, this is slightly off-topic but when you receive your HE-500s, please do post some comparisons to the HD650s here. 

 

 


I was going to link that comparison here for you, but I see you've already found it. Good stuff.

 

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Hi HD650 owners.... I've been trying to find some opinions on headphones to meet certain criteria. I tried posting in a few other threads but not too much feedback happening :)  I'm really interested in the HD650's as I want a sound that just draws me in and gets me lost in the music. I realize in my quoted section below I said I want tight bass, what I really meant was I don't want a muddy bass or a mid-bass that makes the overly warm (like the KOSS portapro has) and makes instruments sound lower than they should. I'm really after a natural sound... oh and I have the Audio-gd Fun, so I'm good for an amp, thanks...

 

 

 

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I prefer a relatively balanced and natural sound. 

 

Very important to me is that the bass is tight and goes deep or certain songs just don't sound right. Drums need a little bit of impact and body.

 

The mids should be just right, I find mids very important for vocals but too much upper mids hurts a little.

 

The highs must be present, Cymabals should sound accurate without being piercing. The treble is definitely the least important factor for me.

 

Sound stage doesn't have to be huge, medium is fine. Imaging and seperation are very important. I love being able to hear clearly seperated instruments and vocals. I can't stand congested music. It is pretty much the definition of a bad headphone to me. Average detail is fine, a little smoothness goes along way to creating a natural sound. Correct timbre? or tone of instruments is also important to me, especially piano, acoustic guitar and drums. Bright headphones make everything sound high pitched and a huge bass hump can make instruments sound deeper then they actually are, I'm not interested in coloration.

 

I generally love "indy" rock that use acoustic instruments. Very little hiphop and techno and quite a few classic rock songs sum up my repertoire. Heres a short list of a few artists that I worship....

 

Arcade fire

Cold war kids

Regina Spektor

The Beatles (psychadellic)

The National

Daft Punk

Beirut

Alicia Keyes

Florence and the Machine

Solid gold

Vampire weekend

 

Oh and I'd like to add, I had some K701's I really enjoyed but it gave me pressure headaches at the ear pads and the sound stage is too big/fake, not intimate enough. :(

 

 

 

post #3441 of 19516
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Originally Posted by muad View Post

Hi HD650 owners.... I've been trying to find some opinions on headphones to meet certain criteria. I tried posting in a few other threads but not too much feedback happening :)  I'm really interested in the HD650's as I want a sound that just draws me in and gets me lost in the music. I realize in my quoted section below I said I want tight bass, what I really meant was I don't want a muddy bass or a mid-bass that makes the overly warm (like the KOSS portapro has) and makes instruments sound lower than they should. I'm really after a natural sound... oh and I have the Audio-gd Fun, so I'm good for an amp, thanks...

 

 

 

 

 

 


I listen to the same genre of music and I can say that I have appreciated the HD650 but recently I have acquired the Beyerdynamic DT1350 for work and I also enjoyed them on my home setup. They have very good tight bass like you seem to look for.
post #3442 of 19516
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Originally Posted by muad View Post

Hi HD650 owners.... I've been trying to find some opinions on headphones to meet certain criteria. I tried posting in a few other threads but not too much feedback happening :)  I'm really interested in the HD650's as I want a sound that just draws me in and gets me lost in the music. I realize in my quoted section below I said I want tight bass, what I really meant was I don't want a muddy bass or a mid-bass that makes the overly warm (like the KOSS portapro has) and makes instruments sound lower than they should. I'm really after a natural sound... oh and I have the Audio-gd Fun, so I'm good for an amp, thanks...

 

 

 

 

 

 


The Fun has very good synergy with the HD650. I prefer the Moon hdam for a weighty and textured mid-centric presentation, but I suspect you may enjoy the sound with the more balanced Earth hdam in the DAC's output. The ada4627-1brz I have in place sounds like Earth on steroids (better resolution, bass and percussion impact but less airy in soundstage) and may be worth pursuing if you're after refinement of that sound.

 

I mainly use my Fun as a DAC now, but its amp section impresses me every time I plug into it for the transparency and resolve presented.


Edited by olor1n - 6/24/11 at 1:31am
post #3443 of 19516
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Originally Posted by muad View Post

Hi HD650 owners.... I've been trying to find some opinions on headphones to meet certain criteria. I tried posting in a few other threads but not too much feedback happening :)  I'm really interested in the HD650's as I want a sound that just draws me in and gets me lost in the music. I realize in my quoted section below I said I want tight bass, what I really meant was I don't want a muddy bass or a mid-bass that makes the overly warm (like the KOSS portapro has) and makes instruments sound lower than they should. I'm really after a natural sound... oh and I have the Audio-gd Fun, so I'm good for an amp, thanks...

 


The 650s are reference class headphones.  Their over all tone quality is arguably the best and most accurate there is.

 

USG

 



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Originally Posted by Narwayo View Post

coming from beyerdynamic dt880 600 Ohm (that I like a lot) there is someone that could compare the bass with senn 650? How is this one? how in the sub bass?

 

 

Over all, the 880s have a less dominant bass than the 650s.   And as good as the 880s are, the 650s can more accurately reproduce real instrument sounds, like the notes on my piano for instance.  If you're asking about electronic sub bass like that found in Massive Attack's Angel, relative to the 880s, the 650s are simply more and better.

 

That said, there is no reason to sell your 880s.  They provide a nice counter point to the 650s.  The difference between those two headphones is very enjoyable.  You will use them both.
 

USG

 

post #3444 of 19516

Muad, some of those bands you mention do really nice with the 650s.  And as Olor1n said above, the FUN is more than capable of handling them.  I'm not sure what op-amp you're using in the DAC section but I'll throw in another endorsement for the ADA4627.  I think I had 7 different op-amps to try in my FUN's DAC stage at one point and I liked the ADA4627 best with the 650s.  

post #3445 of 19516

I really appreciate all the feedback, it sounds like the hd650 is the one for me. I need it to be my end all headphone as I am going to be in school for the better part of three years and won't have time to juggle headphones :) or carry my speakers back and forth with me to my new residence every semester. I figure I can easily pick and move the FUN and HD650 between home home and school home.

 

I'm currently using the opa earth with the wm8471 module and love the sound out of my A5 speaker, which admittedly can never match the details of headphones but the tonality, balance and 3D seperation is amazing. So I will assume that the difference will be much more noticeable difference with headphones. I also like the idea of using a normal opamp instead of the opa's since the opa earth doesn't sit tightly in the socket and is therefore not the best mobility wise. One question though, i thought the Fun amp is fully discreet and only the preamp out uses the opamp?

post #3446 of 19516

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Originally Posted by muad View Post

I really appreciate all the feedback, it sounds like the hd650 is the one for me. I need it to be my end all headphone as I am going to be in school for the better part of three years and won't have time to juggle headphones :) or carry my speakers back and forth with me to my new residence every semester. I figure I can easily pick and move the FUN and HD650 between home home and school home.

 

I'm currently using the opa earth with the wm8471 module and love the sound out of my A5 speaker, which admittedly can never match the details of headphones but the tonality, balance and 3D seperation is amazing. So I will assume that the difference will be much more noticeable difference with headphones. I also like the idea of using a normal opamp instead of the opa's since the opa earth doesn't sit tightly in the socket and is therefore not the best mobility wise. One question though, i thought the Fun amp is fully discreet and only the preamp out uses the opamp?


The DAC section utilizes the op-amp.

 

post #3447 of 19516
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Originally Posted by muad View Post

I really appreciate all the feedback, it sounds like the hd650 is the one for me. I need it to be my end all headphone as I am going to be in school for the better part of three years and won't have time to juggle headphones :) or carry my speakers back and forth with me to my new residence every semester. I figure I can easily pick and move the FUN and HD650 between home home and school home.

 

I'm currently using the opa earth with the wm8471 module and love the sound out of my A5 speaker, which admittedly can never match the details of headphones but the tonality, balance and 3D seperation is amazing. So I will assume that the difference will be much more noticeable difference with headphones. I also like the idea of using a normal opamp instead of the opa's since the opa earth doesn't sit tightly in the socket and is therefore not the best mobility wise. One question though, i thought the Fun amp is fully discreet and only the preamp out uses the opamp?


There is no such thing as an end all headphone.  Keep your 880s too.

 

post #3448 of 19516
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post

Over all, the 880s have a less dominant bass than the 650s.   And as good as the 880s are, the 650s can more accurately reproduce real instrument sounds, like the notes on my piano for instance.  If you're asking about electronic sub bass like that found in Massive Attack's Angel, relative to the 880s, the 650s are simply more and better.

 

That said, there is no reason to sell your 880s.  They provide a nice counter point to the 650s.  The difference between those two headphones is very enjoyable.  You will use them both.
 

USG

 

Thank you very much USG, I am happy with dt880 600 Ohm, but I am searching for a pair of headphones that can give me more bass for some fun, but not the fun of extramegabass or things like that. I just need that thunderous effect when I ear some kind of ambience music or when I watch movies, and for some gaming. I am looking between some models but mostly the HD650 and DT990... The only thing that I am worry is that with the 990 with the bass I will gain some sibilance(as reported from someone) and with the HD650 I will just gain some bass, but nothing that can make me justify the purchase. 
 

 

post #3449 of 19516

"some bass" with hd650 was referred to "just a slightly amount more than 880"

post #3450 of 19516

Lol, I dont have the 880's... narwayo does :) I have no heaphones atm and need something that does everything well and meet the criteria I previously listed. Thanks 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by muad View Post

I really appreciate all the feedback, it sounds like the hd650 is the one for me. I need it to be my end all headphone as I am going to be in school for the better part of three years and won't have time to juggle headphones :) or carry my speakers back and forth with me to my new residence every semester. I figure I can easily pick and move the FUN and HD650 between home home and school home.

 

I'm currently using the opa earth with the wm8471 module and love the sound out of my A5 speaker, which admittedly can never match the details of headphones but the tonality, balance and 3D seperation is amazing. So I will assume that the difference will be much more noticeable difference with headphones. I also like the idea of using a normal opamp instead of the opa's since the opa earth doesn't sit tightly in the socket and is therefore not the best mobility wise. One question though, i thought the Fun amp is fully discreet and only the preamp out uses the opamp?


There is no such thing as an end all headphone.  Keep your 880s too.

 

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