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I'd say every dollar you might spend on a new cable is 10x better spent on a more capable amplifier at this point. Putting a $200 cable on a $350 headphones driven by a $200 amp would be way, way cable overkill. Way, way, way, way overkill in fact. redface.gif The best cable in the world in between a integrated circuit op-amp amplifier and your HD650 will be indistinguishable from any other cable, including the one that comes on it.

Up to somewhere in the neighborhood of a thousand bucks or so total budget it's all source, amp, headphone. Maybe even fifteen hundred bucks. Exotic cables are for people who have spent so much on source, amp, headphone that they're past the point of diminishing returns.

P.S. All of this is based on accepting the proposition that cables matter in the first place, which I do not, but even if they do I'm just sayin'...
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Concerning my own HD650 experience...now that I actually have some...

So that's what they mean about feeling like you're sitting 20 rows back in a concert hall. My first track of music played when I received my almost-new HD650 was the Mozart Piano Concerto No. 27 by the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra with Richard Goode. Before the piano even arrived in the first movement it gave the darndest impression of being in the middle of an auditorium. One with great acoustics where you can hear every inflection perfectly from 20 rows back.

I had listened a good bit to this recording on my HD595 and new (to me) Schiit Asgard amp while waiting on the HD650 to arrive. Two things stand out in comparing these headphones. The HD595 lets me hear everything clearly (pretty much) but is not at all like being there. The HD650 is like being there. The other difference happens when the piano does a loud glissando. With the HD650 I can still hear the 'wood" of the piano but the '595 just sounds like loud, bright almost metallic-sounding treble notes with no depth. And the piano is just generally edgier on the lesser headphones.
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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post


 


Very well, I'll revise my comment to FR graphs are *almost* useless. :P My HD 650's do not sound anything like the headroom graph.

 

Thanks for your comments. . . I've had the same problem with the HD 650's being fatiguing, but only on occasion. I think my cheap DAC/amp powers them just fine. There might not even be two versions of the HD 600's you know, I read some comments here that they all sound the same. On the other hand, I don't think the difference between people thinking the HD 650's are dark or quite bright make any sense, so I reckon there are two versions. In the end though I suppose we can reckon all day and we might never know for sure. If the HD 600's really aren't as good as the HD 650's I guess I'll stick to my heavily EQ'd HD 650's. When I get angry at their brightness I can always go to my nice dull K 601's I suppose.

 

BTW I think they're great for gaming if you turn down the treble s**tloads (and that's basically what I do for music to).

 

EDIT: btw the EQ seeting I'm using in foobar is like:

 

-1, -2, -2, -2, -2, -1, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -5. . .

 

One more thing, what do you think of the HD 600's soundstage?

 

 

 


Sigh...you have a long way to go.

 

The answers to your questions and concerns will come with time from experimenting with different gear.

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Is there a reason why I'd be finding the HD650s to be noticeably louder at each given volume than the HD595s were off the Denon amp?



Has to do with how the amp is reacting with each load. Have to check the impedance and sensitivity figures for both cans.

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Sigh...you have a long way to go.

 

The answers to your questions and concerns will come with time from experimenting with different gear.



Or a simple response. rolleyes.gif

 

I'll experiment with more gear when I'm rich and not a student.

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IGNORE THIS: THIS S A TEST POST.

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HD 650 coming on Wednesday. regular_smile%20.gif

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Or a simple response. rolleyes.gif

 

I'll experiment with more gear when I'm rich and not a student.

 

The info you seek can be obtained by searching Head-Fi instead of asking.

(Ofcourse...listening for yourself is the best solution, everyone's ears and preferences are different)

 

To be honest with you, there are so many things in your post I disagree with that I don't know where to begin. That's why I'm suggesting doing a lot more reading on here before asking.

Read the previous posts in this thread too.

 


Edited by Shahrose - 3/14/11 at 3:43pm
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The info you seek can be obtained by searching Head-Fi instead of asking.

(Ofcourse...listening for yourself is the best solution, everyone's ears and preferences are different)

 

I suppose so, but I was interested in his opinion.

 

To be honest with you, there are so many things in your post I disagree with that I don't know where to begin. That's why I'm suggesting doing a lot more reading on here before asking.

Read the previous posts in this thread too.

 

Welcome to head-fi? There are all sorts of different conflicting opinions here!

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

 


Very well, I'll revise my comment to FR graphs are *almost* useless. :P My HD 650's do not sound anything like the headroom graph.

 

 

 


 

Mine sound exactly like the Headroom graph.
 

 

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It's still early to say but mine sound pretty much like the Headroom graph except slightly green instead of blue.tongue.gif

Man I love 'em!
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I wish mine sounded like the headroom graph. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

I wish mine sounded like the headroom graph. Oh well.


Maybe they do. Have you had your ears sluiced out recently?  biggrin.gif
 

 

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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

I wish mine sounded like the headroom graph. Oh well.

For what it's worth: a friend of mine found the HD650 bass muddy and bloated (among other problems) on his A/V receiver in comparison to my gear.  So your HD650s might sound more like the Headroom graph if you listened with Headroom's chain. 

 

On the other hand, the issue could be your HRTF.  It's like being a lefty.  So try out one of the many good software or hardware EQs out there using that headphone equalization thread as your guide, other people who found the HD650s fatiguing have managed to fix that problem using that thread.


Edited by sphinxvc - 3/14/11 at 6:15pm
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same here. actually i add a bit of treble to mine, but they still sound like the graph looks.
 

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Mine sound exactly like the Headroom graph.
 

 



 

 

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