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post #2431 of 36851

SP Wild: I get the feeling the HD 650 is your favourite headphone with the Phoenix/REF7 combo? :)

 

I have an announcement to make! My HD 650 has just shipped. I´m looking forward to hearing it with the same setup. From what I´ve read it should scale perfectly with higher end gear (a lot of people here even prefer it to the HD 800!). In my dreams it will be a mix between HD 800 and LCD-2. I liked certain things about both, but ended up selling them. My wishlist: no sibilance like LCD-2, soundstage larger than LCD-2, nice midrange and a bit more bass than HD 800. 

 

I´ll post my impressions as soon as I get it. I might just join the fanclub!

post #2432 of 36851

The HD650s is what got it started for me and I am always a fan.  The LCD2s are heavy and quite as comfortable and I do like their sound the most.  But for convenience sake, the HD650s get a lot of head time.  I don't worry if I drop them, they are lighter and their tonal balance is spot on IMO.

 

With further use of the HD650 and Ref7/Phoenix combo in balanced operation...I get the feeling that indeed the HD650s benefit from tremendous power reserves and balancing does make a very noticeable improvement to smoothness and spaciousness if the instruments.  I highly recommend the HD650 be paired with balanced drive.

 

For those complaining of listening fatigue in the trebles with the HD650, I suspect that my Black Cube Linear amp may have powered them fine volume wise...but I believe now that it was unable to power them to their full potential and that was maybe one reason for the fatiguing grain and sizzle in the upper frequencies.  Made worse by the BCL being a lean sounding amplifier.  I think congestion in the upper frequencies need to be avoided with the HD650s, this is a result of pairing with bright sources and alleviated with neutral and warm sources.

 

VRLN:  You might like the HD650s...I can't comment on soundstage as it seems to me this can be and individual HRTF perception as I have always heard the LCD2 as having a soundstage almost as large as the HD800, its massive to me...and it sounds a little bigger than the HD650.  But the HD650 does have more presence in frequencies just above the human voice and below the treble...at around the upper midrange.  This will help with the "congestion" issue you had with the LCD2 and it may sound like a bigger soundstage to your HRTF.  Regardless, the HD650 is not known for having a small soundstage...I personally found the soundstage of the HD650 as satisfying as any headphone I have heard.

post #2433 of 36851

Just listening to Brian Eno's "Between" and amazed at the quality of the HD650, and as always of Eno's production.  He's amazing.  

 

I finally have a great comfy quiet space to listen. Prior to now, all my best sound was IEMs.  The 650 was my first open backed can, and I had constant distractions from the wife, kid and cat.

 

I built a movie-theatre in my basement, with insulated walls, AC, and a 10' screen driven by a Mac Mini, feeding a Burson 160D via a HiFace SPDIF interface, and Pure Music software for upsampling.  I have banana hangers for the phones on the coffee table.  I just fired up the new digital/phone rig in the room for the first time tonight.

 

With a comfy sofa, not only is this freeking awesome for phone listening but it also rocks through the main system, as I can now upsample content to 32/192K with really excellent results through the speaker.  

 

The Mac mini was the key, as I can turn off the projector, and still use an iPhone or an iPad as a remote. 

 

Interestingly, the sonic signature of the 650 is fairly close to my speakers, which were time-domain corrected for the room.  I'm still waiting for the LCD-2, as I think this will go the last step, but it will be interesting to compare both to a highly optimized speaker system.

 

post #2434 of 36851

Post a picture, please mrspeakers!

post #2435 of 36851
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Post a picture, please mrspeakers!



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post #2436 of 36851

We'll see if photos work using Camino, they don't with Safari.  Alas, the room is much nicer than the photos show, because the paint is dark my camera is too crappy to get a decent shot without flash, so it either looks washed out or just kind of odd. 

 

The room acoustics are about 80% done, I need some diffusers to finish it off, and to take the headphone rig and hide the cables.  Also, the two acoustic panels by the front speakers will be hung this weekend.  They just arrived to tame the first reflection from the sidewall.  The system images way better with them there...

 

The amplifier is a 2,000 total Watt into 4 ohm (which my speakers are) 5 channel Theta Dreadnaught (and it's real power, not "one channel" phoney baloney specs), with a 7 channel surround processor from Integra, and 7.1 speakers.  The sub was of my own design, and uses two 12" drivers in a sealed box to go to 16Hz without EQ, servos, or ports, and just sounds awesome.  The speakers are my reference designs that were created for Platinum Audio's Reference series speakers.  

 

 

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The screen is 10' across, with a very nice Epson 1080p projector. The lights are on, which washes the screen.  The HD650s are on a banana stand on the coffee table. 

 

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The Burson.  Will drill cable holes through the table to make it look nice. 

 

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With a flash you can see the true wall color. 

 

And here's the back-view into the room.  

 

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The cheezy brown cabinets will be replaced with some simple black shelves for blu-ray storage.

 

The Mac Mini is in the rack, next to the Wii.  18' Blue Jeans coax driven by the M2Tech HiFace card gives rock steady digital to the Burson.  Flippin' great sound.  The banana rack was only $14, and works great, looks OK.

post #2437 of 36851

Waiting for my Stagedac/Concerto to arrive in the mail.  I'm giddy.

post #2438 of 36851
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

We'll see if photos work using Camino, they don't with Safari.  Alas, the room is much nicer than the photos show, because the paint is dark my camera is too crappy to get a decent shot without flash, so it either looks washed out or just kind of odd. 

 

The room acoustics are about 80% done, I need some diffusers to finish it off, and to take the headphone rig and hide the cables.  Also, the two acoustic panels by the front speakers will be hung this weekend.  They just arrived to tame the first reflection from the sidewall.  The system images way better with them there...

 

The amplifier is a 2,000 total Watt into 4 ohm (which my speakers are) 5 channel Theta Dreadnaught (and it's real power, not "one channel" phoney baloney specs), with a 7 channel surround processor from Integra, and 7.1 speakers.  The sub was of my own design, and uses two 12" drivers in a sealed box to go to 16Hz without EQ, servos, or ports, and just sounds awesome.  The speakers are my reference designs that were created for Platinum Audio's Reference series speakers.  

 

 

P2100001.jpg

 

The screen is 10' across, with a very nice Epson 1080p projector. The lights are on, which washes the screen.  The HD650s are on a banana stand on the coffee table. 

 

P2100002.jpg

 

The Burson.  Will drill cable holes through the table to make it look nice. 

 

P2100003.jpg

 

With a flash you can see the true wall color. 

 

And here's the back-view into the room.  

 

P2100006.jpg

 

The cheezy brown cabinets will be replaced with some simple black shelves for blu-ray storage.

 

The Mac Mini is in the rack, next to the Wii.  18' Blue Jeans coax driven by the M2Tech HiFace card gives rock steady digital to the Burson.  Flippin' great sound.  The banana rack was only $14, and works great, looks OK.

Gah I hate Macs. It's ok, i dont dislike you. Just don't like Macs.

 

Also, to stay on topic, love my HD650s.
 

post #2439 of 36851

Ah well, I refuse to use PCs.  Takes all kinds...

 

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post #2440 of 36851
What's there to "hate" about Macs? Have you even used one, or are you simply trying to maintain some sort of nerdy street cred? confused_face(1).gif

Btw, nice setup mrspeakers. I wish I had a man cave like that.
post #2441 of 36851

Thanks, it was fun to build.  What a rare and wonderful thing to land a place in CA with a basement big enough to cut in two and make a bonus room for my hobby!

post #2442 of 36851
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

What's there to "hate" about Macs? Have you even used one, or are you simply trying to maintain some sort of nerdy street cred? confused_face(1).gif

Btw, nice setup mrspeakers. I wish I had a man cave like that.

I refuse to derail this thread. I don't hate macs, just consider PCs to be vastly superior. I actually don't like Apple much, tbh.

 

Might get a Bottlehead crack soon. tempted....
 

post #2443 of 36851

Got some HD650's somewhat on a lark a week ago (currently using HD600's with Cardas and Equinox cables). They have been burning in 24x7 for a week, so they are at least listenable now. Comparing them to my several year old HD600's (using the 650 and Cardas cables on both) is interesting. Certainly a little darker perspective, but they are not more "veiled" - if anything the dimensionality and detail is greater, the detail just doesn't hit you like the 600's. The HD600's sound a little "peaky" and grainy compared to the 650's so far. The low bass is also better on the 650's, although I plan to run them in for another week before using them seriously.

 

The HD650 cable is actually quite nice - I might possibly like it better than the Cardas in some ways. Haven't tried it yet, but I suspect the SAA Equinox cable will work well with the 650's. 

post #2444 of 36851

Mrspeakers, that's real slick. I could sit there all day! Also, I don't think the banana stand looks half bad, to be honest--I would replace the cabinets at the back of the wall though...they are a bit of an eyesore. Nice work with that room!

post #2445 of 36851

Thanks!  The cabinets are just temps to hold my movies.  I am going to put in glass shelves, and some RGB LED wash lights over the front screen to "glow" the room for chilling out.  

 

The room is really mellow, and quiet.   The colors and lighting are impossible to get on film, maybe a pro could anyhow, but not me and my pocket cam...  

 

I've recently become most enthused by orthos, and am loving my modified Fostex's.  I'll probably drop off the 650 thread, as while I think they're great, they're just not asking to be put on as much right now...  Cheers, all!

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