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post #20506 of 20516

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.

I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

 

Thankee

post #20507 of 20516
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Originally Posted by Pirakaphile View Post

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.
I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

Thankee
[/quote650 and hifiman 400i best hp under $500
post #20508 of 20516
I like jazz and a fan of old Yes albums myself, have miriads editions of them but feel that I really need HD800 to enjoy them most. And yes I used to own HD650 but unfortunately never heard them with the Crack yet. But I recently tried them with LIO and they can't do what I want even with such expensive setup
post #20509 of 20516
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Originally Posted by Pirakaphile View Post
 

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.

I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

 

Thankee

 

The HD650 is not bad with Jazz, but I doubt it would be any better than your DT990. IMO Jazz benefits greatly from Soundstage, and from memory I think the DT990 has bigger & wider soundstage than the HD650.

post #20510 of 20516
Running them balanced from the HDVA 600 they are fantastic with jazz and high energy music.
post #20511 of 20516
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Originally Posted by Pirakaphile View Post

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.
I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

Thankee
[/quote650 and hifiman 400i best hp under $500

I was looking at the HE500 actually, since I've heard very good things about them, and I'm trying to narrow between the 500s and 650s.

 

 

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The HD650 is not bad with Jazz, but I doubt it would be any better than your DT990. IMO Jazz benefits greatly from Soundstage, and from memory I think the DT990 has bigger & wider soundstage than the HD650.

So I don't really need the 650? I do quite enjoy the 990 Pro with all kinds of music, and just got finished listening to the soundtrack for Alien, so I guess they do have quite a soundstage, but I just feel like there's something better out there.

 

 

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Running them balanced from the HDVA 600 they are fantastic with jazz and high energy music.

As much as this sounds like a good idea, I do need my car more than music, and I'm not willing to sell my wheels for an amp quite yet.

post #20512 of 20516
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Originally Posted by Pirakaphile View Post
 

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.

I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

 

Thankee

 

The HD650 is not bad with Jazz, but I doubt it would be any better than your DT990. IMO Jazz benefits greatly from Soundstage, and from memory I think the DT990 has bigger & wider soundstage than the HD650.

I'm not saying HD650 are bad for jazz, i just mean that they not good enough for you to stop looking for better headphones such as HD800 for example
post #20513 of 20516
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Originally Posted by Pirakaphile View Post

Painful question here. I've been hearing a lot about the smoothness of the 650s, as well as their warm tone and rich mids. However, as much as I enjoy jazz, I'm wondering if these cans'll such the energy out of the music. A lot of jazz I listen to is fusion, or very high energy, and when I look to get headphones, I want something that'll mingle well with my music taste. Not only do I listen to a ton of jazz, but I'm also a massive fan of Yes's old stuff, like Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise, as well as old Kansas, like Song for America and Wayward Son. I need to know of the HD650 can keep up with the crazy energy of my music, which will ultimately get a decision out of me.
I don't doubt the quality of sound, nor the distortion, response, or anything else, I'm just doing all the research I can to find out what'll end my hunt for the best (affordable) set of headphones on the market that suit my taste and stop me from trying to buy anything more expensive or similarly priced.

Thankee
[/quote650 and hifiman 400i best hp under $500

I was looking at the HE500 actually, since I've heard very good things about them, and I'm trying to narrow between the 500s and 650s.

 

 

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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

The HD650 is not bad with Jazz, but I doubt it would be any better than your DT990. IMO Jazz benefits greatly from Soundstage, and from memory I think the DT990 has bigger & wider soundstage than the HD650.

So I don't really need the 650? I do quite enjoy the 990 Pro with all kinds of music, and just got finished listening to the soundtrack for Alien, so I guess they do have quite a soundstage, but I just feel like there's something better out there.

 

 

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Originally Posted by donlin View Post

Running them balanced from the HDVA 600 they are fantastic with jazz and high energy music.

As much as this sounds like a good idea, I do need my car more than music, and I'm not willing to sell my wheels for an amp quite yet.

HE-500 sound differently plus they are way too heavy
post #20514 of 20516
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I added some Fischer audio Fa003 pads to my Hd650 and the comfort went through the roof! I took a old pair of pads, cut the ring off the back and then placed the fischer pads on them, added some glue and there we go!

 

Did this ease the clamping force of the HD650's?  That's my only complaint with mine....kungfu grip on my head and I'm not that keen on the velour.

 

Any idea where I can pickup a set of the Fischer pads?  

 

Thanks for posting.

 

HS

post #20515 of 20516
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HE-500 sound differently plus they are way too heavy

 

Have to agree... I've owned both headphones and found that I preferred the HD-650's for jazz myself... their presentation is a lot different than the HE-500's though, so it would probably come down to personal preference. I found the HE-500's were much "faster" in presentation, which some people might think would equate to a more energetic sound, but I actually didn't. I prefer the laid-back, romantic sound the HD-650's offer for the instruments and percussion in a lot of jazz tracks. I also find that the vocals and mids on the 650s are beautiful. 

 

I would also certainly recommend HE-500's over the Senns for "faster" music, or if you're more interested in having punchier, exaggerated bass. I find the HD-650's have a more enriching sound without having to push anything forward... not that the HE-500s overly exaggerate anything in particular.

 

@pirakaphile do you prefer the sound of tube amps or solid state amps? If you prefer tubes, you would probably really enjoy the 650s with say the Crack, or the WA2. If you're more into solid state, maybe the HE-500s are the way to go. I found them to do things differently than the 650s, but they were also extremely heavy.

post #20516 of 20516
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Originally Posted by mikoss View Post

Have to agree... I've owned both headphones and found that I preferred the HD-650's for jazz myself... their presentation is a lot different than the HE-500's though, so it would probably come down to personal preference. I found the HE-500's were much "faster" in presentation, which some people might think would equate to a more energetic sound, but I actually didn't. I prefer the laid-back, romantic sound the HD-650's offer for the instruments and percussion in a lot of jazz tracks. I also find that the vocals and mids on the 650s are beautiful. 

I would also certainly recommend HE-500's over the Senns for "faster" music, or if you're more interested in having punchier, exaggerated bass. I find the HD-650's have a more enriching sound without having to push anything forward... not that the HE-500s overly exaggerate anything in particular.

@pirakaphile do you prefer the sound of tube amps or solid state amps? If you prefer tubes, you would probably really enjoy the 650s with say the Crack, or the WA2. If you're more into solid state, maybe the HE-500s are the way to go. I found them to do things differently than the 650s, but they were also extremely heavy.
I've never tried tubes, since I just got my Magni/Modi just this August, so I wouldn't know yet. Looking to get the Vali next year when I've the dough. And the HE500 sounds more like the kind of headphone I'm gonna want. However, I'm really liking what people say about the HD650, so I'll definitely get it as well. Probably two years from now though.. Unless I don't get enough money this krismas, then I'll get the 650 now and the 500 later. Now it's just a money issue.

And don't worry about the cans being heavy, I'm waaaaay more muscular than your wimpy pencil neck. :3
But no really, I wear helmets for things all the time, and they're at least two pounds.

Cheers all, I can't wait 'till I get to post my own impressions!
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