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post #1891 of 36851
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Originally Posted by yianni View Post

I just got my pair today, I've been using ultrasone hfi-780s for a while, only source right now is my musiland monitor 02 which I don't think is sufficient enough for the 650s because my 780s sound louder/better. The only amp I have is my portable Alo rx which again the 780s sound louder/better, with the rx i have all the volumes up on the 650s and its not phazing it so I'm gonna have to invest in an amp it seems like

 

How many hours of burn in to these cans need?


I have a pair of ALO-780s, and they do not compare favorably to my HD650s. ALO/HFI-780s have very aggressive and overpowering mids, IMO, which makes them sound very involving and 'fun,' but you also lose a lot of detail and space (and really anything that isn't in the mids) My HD650s on the other hand, have a much more balanced and open sound, but they certainly aren't the most aggressive headphones ever made, so you're most likely missing the really forward sound that you get from the 780s. Try listening to your HD650s exclusively for a week or so to get used to the sound, and then switch back. I'm sure that you'll be amazed at how much more detailed, neutral and expansive the Senns are then the Ultrasones. 

 

I wouldn't recommend any dedicated burn-in, there's no point because it won't help you get used to the sound signature. It will only waste the batteries in your amp. I'm a proponent of 'burning in' on your head, because I feel that there isn't any appreciable mechanical burn-in, only psychological adjustment.

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As far as an amplifier, I definitely recommend going for a desktop amplifier in the near future, but make sure that you do lots of research so you know what you'll be getting into. Don't rush into it, your HD650s will still sound pretty decent out of your current setup. 

 

post #1892 of 36851
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Originally Posted by yianni View Post

I just got my pair today, I've been using ultrasone hfi-780s for a while, only source right now is my musiland monitor 02 which I don't think is sufficient enough for the 650s because my 780s sound louder/better. The only amp I have is my portable Alo rx which again the 780s sound louder/better, with the rx i have all the volumes up on the 650s and its not phazing it so I'm gonna have to invest in an amp it seems like

 

How many hours of burn in to these cans need?



I feel the 02US pairs well with the HD650...a very solid budget setup. I think you just need to adjust to the 650s, which BTW, are a lot better than the 780s. Burning them in for about 100 hours will also help. Over time, the earpad deformation makes the sound warmer, bassier and darker too.

 

Also louder doesn't mean better, I feel you're confusing the two. If you're having trouble with volume, trying plugging the 650s into the high-impedance output. There are 2 1/8inch outputs, one of which is for low-impedance cans and the other for high-impedance. Using the latest Musiland software for volume control, I can get the HD650s to be loud enough to destroy eardrums, so I would also check my drivers if I were you.


Edited by Shahrose - 12/1/10 at 3:47pm
post #1893 of 36851
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by yianni View Post

I just got my pair today, I've been using ultrasone hfi-780s for a while, only source right now is my musiland monitor 02 which I don't think is sufficient enough for the 650s because my 780s sound louder/better. The only amp I have is my portable Alo rx which again the 780s sound louder/better, with the rx i have all the volumes up on the 650s and its not phazing it so I'm gonna have to invest in an amp it seems like

 

How many hours of burn in to these cans need?


I have a pair of ALO-780s, and they do not compare favorably to my HD650s. ALO/HFI-780s have very aggressive and overpowering mids, IMO, which makes them sound very involving and 'fun,' but you also lose a lot of detail and space (and really anything that isn't in the mids) My HD650s on the other hand, have a much more balanced and open sound, but they certainly aren't the most aggressive headphones ever made, so you're most likely missing the really forward sound that you get from the 780s. Try listening to your HD650s exclusively for a week or so to get used to the sound, and then switch back. I'm sure that you'll be amazed at how much more detailed, neutral and expansive the Senns are then the Ultrasones. 

 

I wouldn't recommend any dedicated burn-in, there's no point because it won't help you get used to the sound signature. It will only waste the batteries in your amp. I'm a proponent of 'burning in' on your head, because I feel that there isn't any appreciable mechanical burn-in, only psychological adjustment.

'

As far as an amplifier, I definitely recommend going for a desktop amplifier in the near future, but make sure that you do lots of research so you know what you'll be getting into. Don't rush into it, your HD650s will still sound pretty decent out of your current setup. 

 



ill put my 780s away for a while which are pretty burned in, so ill do what you suggested thank you. i will be getting a desktop amp soon not sure what yet id like to start cheap maybe a little dot mk ii or mk iii


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by yianni View Post

I just got my pair today, I've been using ultrasone hfi-780s for a while, only source right now is my musiland monitor 02 which I don't think is sufficient enough for the 650s because my 780s sound louder/better. The only amp I have is my portable Alo rx which again the 780s sound louder/better, with the rx i have all the volumes up on the 650s and its not phazing it so I'm gonna have to invest in an amp it seems like

 

How many hours of burn in to these cans need?



I feel the 02US pairs well with the HD650...a very solid budget setup. I think you just need to adjust to the 650s, which BTW, are a lot better than the 780s. Burning them in for about 100 hours will also help. Over time, the earpad deformation makes the sound warmer, bassier and darker too.

 

Also louder doesn't mean better, I feel you're confusing the two. If you're having trouble with volume, trying plugging the 650s into the high-impedance output. There are 2 1/8inch outputs, one of which is for low-impedance cans and the other for high-impedance. Using the latest Musiland software for volume control, I can get the HD650s to be loud enough to destroy eardrums, so I would also check my drivers if I were you.

 

im pretty sure theyre in the high impedance output which i believe is the left one.
 

im using the 1.0.8.6 drivers ill try the newer ones

post #1894 of 36851

I am now officially a member of the "HD650 is awesome!" club.

 

Best headphone I have ever listened to! I will never, ever replace it!

post #1895 of 36851

nice! glad to see another HD650 supporter.

 

i've had mine almost 2 weeks now and have put tons of time on them. if i had to guess i'd say i have about a hundred hours, maybe more, on them already, and those were all listening hours. i haven't been doing any additional non listening break in. HeadRoom desktop amp & DAC/HD650 combo is sweet.
 

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Originally Posted by Katun View Post

I am now officially a member of the "HD650 is awesome!" club.

 

Best headphone I have ever listened to! I will never, ever replace it!

post #1896 of 36851
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

nice! glad to see another HD650 supporter.

 

i've had mine almost 2 weeks now and have put tons of time on them. if i had to guess i'd say i have about a hundred hours, maybe more, on them already, and those were all listening hours. i haven't been doing any additional non listening break in. HeadRoom desktop amp & DAC/HD650 combo is sweet.
 


Wow! That is A LOT of listening! I've had mine for a week now and only have 25 hours on it (about 20 of that with burn in). Hundreds of hours of LISTENING to them on your head is crazy!

 

This is actually my 2nd HD650, the first being about a month ago. I sent it back because I didn't have an amp at the time and I was concerned with it's build quality. As soon as I got my MKIII, I knew the exact headphone I wanted to try again. I missed the HD650's sound even unamped, and really wanted to find out how it did with my MKIII. So, I bought my second pair (and am more careful with it now) excited to once again hear it's great sound -- but this time amped. Even though I've had it only a week, I extensively compared it with the DT880 and DT990 (both 600ohm). Finding that the HD650 was clearly superior to my ears, I kept it, and plan on never replacing such a fantastic headphone!

post #1897 of 36851

wednesday(the 8th) will be two weeks, and pretty much anytime i could be watching tv or playing video games i've been listening to these instead. pretty much everyday before work and after work i put them on and enjoy. i have them on right now. lol L3000.gif
 

i've been rediscovering my music collection and discovering a lot of new music. i've found so much good music in the last 2 weeks its amazing. i'm so thankful for Lastfm, Shoutcast, and Rdio.

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Originally Posted by Katun View Post


Wow! That is A LOT of listening! I've had mine for a week now and only have 25 hours on it (about 20 of that with burn in). Hundreds of hours of LISTENING to them on your head is crazy!

 

This is actually my 2nd HD650, the first being about a month ago. I sent it back because I didn't have an amp at the time and I was concerned with it's build quality. As soon as I got my MKIII, I knew the exact headphone I wanted to try again. I missed the HD650's sound even unamped, and really wanted to find out how it did with my MKIII. So, I bought my second pair (and am more careful with it now) excited to once again hear it's great sound -- but this time amped. Even though I've had it only a week, I extensively compared it with the DT880 and DT990 (both 600ohm). Finding that the HD650 was clearly superior to my ears, I kept it, and plan on never replacing such a fantastic headphone!


Edited by jasonb - 12/6/10 at 11:08am
post #1898 of 36851

Yup, I will admit that I have been rediscovering a lot of my music as well. If I'm not rediscovering it, then I'm enjoy it like I never have before.

 

As of right now, I have only used it for music. But very soon, it will be used for games, games, and more games. As well as movies.

 

Just a spectacular headphone overall. Not only is the sound absolutely top notch, but these are actually in my "Top 3 Comfort" list!

post #1899 of 36851

yup, they are comfy. i have a small(ish) head though. i could see them being a bit tight on some people, but for me they are just right.
 

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Originally Posted by Katun View Post

Yup, I will admit that I have been rediscovering a lot of my music as well. If I'm not rediscovering it, then I'm enjoy it like I never have before.

 

As of right now, I have only used it for music. But very soon, it will be used for games, games, and more games. As well as movies.

 

Just a spectacular headphone overall. Not only is the sound absolutely top notch, but these are actually in my "Top 3 Comfort" list!

post #1900 of 36851
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Originally Posted by Katun View Post

I am now officially a member of the "HD650 is awesome!" club.

 

Best headphone I have ever listened to! I will never, ever replace it!


Are you sure?  wink.gif

post #1901 of 36851
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katun View Post

I am now officially a member of the "HD650 is awesome!" club.

 

Best headphone I have ever listened to! I will never, ever replace it!


Are you sure?  wink.gif

 

 

Absolutely not. rolleyes.gif

 

I've got many years before I start thinking about the HD800... tongue.gif
 

post #1902 of 36851

If you like HD650, I don't think you'll like HD800, it's totally for different audience, it attract mostly for AKG701, Stax Lambda folks.

 

LCD-2 maybe for us ... beerchug.gif

post #1903 of 36851
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

If you like HD650, I don't think you'll like HD800, it's totally for different audience, it attract mostly for AKG701, Stax Lambda folks.

 

LCD-2 maybe for us ... beerchug.gif



I don't find the HD800s sound much like the K701s except for the expansive sound stage. For me they are more of a perfected HD600.

post #1904 of 36851

Oops, ok ok, HD800 is much better than AKG701.  biggrin.gif

post #1905 of 36851

HD650 + Massive Attack's "Mezzanine" album = sweeeet!

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