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post #1741 of 36851

Since this is a HD650 thread I must say that the Grace m902 is absolutely fabulous with the 650.

 

However I have an issue with brightness on the Beyerdynamics T1's. I also had this problem with the HD800 - not only on the Grace, but with Headline and Lehman Black Cube Linear (Sennheiser reference amp for HD800) also. Guess I am a sensitive person. 

post #1742 of 36851
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

Since this is a HD650 thread I must say that the Grace m902 is absolutely fabulous with the 650.

 

However I have an issue with brightness on the Beyerdynamics T1's. I also had this problem with the HD800 - not only on the Grace, but with Headline and Lehman Black Cube Linear (Sennheiser reference amp for HD800) also. Guess I am a sensitive person. 


I always thaought the Grace m902 was a sharp and edgy amp and with the DT-880 I had back then it was the shortest way to fatigue. But I have to agree that with the HD650 it is a fantastic match! 

post #1743 of 36851
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Originally Posted by rasmushorn View Post

I always thaought the Grace m902 was a sharp and edgy amp and with the DT-880 I had back then it was the shortest way to fatigue. But I have to agree that with the HD650 it is a fantastic match! 

hmm - any suggestions for an unfatiguing amp? Or even better a dac-amp? 
 

post #1744 of 36851

I'm sure the Grace is a great amp, as it should be, but on a somewhat less exalted level I'd like to recommend the Cambridge Audio A340SE integrated amp. No, it's not a dedicated HP amp and doesn't cost the equivalent of a house in the country, but I'm getting results with my HD650 that finally reveals what soundstage depth and air mean. Truly guys, this a genuine synergistic marvel with the 650--lean and sharp where the 650 is fat and wallowing--and definitely more than the sum of its parts. I'm going over my whole collection hearing musical lines I've never heard before, but what's more important, hearing it more as music with real timbre and less as amorphous sound.

 

Okay, so don't believe me. An upstart budget integrated...blah...

 

post #1745 of 36851
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post



hmm - any suggestions for an unfatiguing amp? Or even better a dac-amp? 
 



Stay with the Grace m902 + HD650 combo! That is not a bad DAC/Amp at all. There are a lot of different choices out there but you will have to search for a long time to find something better.

post #1746 of 36851

Since we are on the issue of sibilance, could you guys help me in the thread linked below in determining if my HD650's are faulty, as I find these two tracks too sibilant  / birght and hissy on the HD650, but not on others. (Alleviating htis involves significantly lowering the 10k-14k treble in EQ)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/518128/help-needed-verification-of-sibilance-on-some-ne-yo-jason-derulo-tracks-hd650-or-other-top-end-headphones-please#post_6998187

 

I'd also like to mention that I noticed these headphones seem to lack a certain punch in drums compared to my long lost Grado SR80s. (Particularly in the track Outback Oasis by Don Grusin) I'm still worried I got a faulty unit.

post #1747 of 36851
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Originally Posted by carlcamper View Post

Since we are on the issue of sibilance, could you guys help me in the thread linked below in determining if my HD650's are faulty, as I find these two tracks too sibilant  / birght and hissy on the HD650, but not on others. (Alleviating htis involves significantly lowering the 10k-14k treble in EQ)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/518128/help-needed-verification-of-sibilance-on-some-ne-yo-jason-derulo-tracks-hd650-or-other-top-end-headphones-please#post_6998187

 

I'd also like to mention that I noticed these headphones seem to lack a certain punch in drums compared to my long lost Grado SR80s. (Particularly in the track Outback Oasis by Don Grusin) I'm still worried I got a faulty unit.

 

I'd love to do a test here for you, but you've not posted any example music that I have.  Perhaps, through private messaging, you could provide me copies of these songs to test.  I'm sure this question is bothering you a lot. 
 

post #1748 of 36851

Here is the link to the aforementioned samples:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84392

The drum impact sample is for comparison between Sennheiser and Grado, as I find that even the lower end SR80 reproduces this far better than the reference HD650. Can anyone with both brands confirm?

post #1749 of 36851

I have Grado and Senn, but I can't download the attachment, my st*pid Quicktime trying to play it on the browser frown.gif

post #1750 of 36851
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

I have Grado and Senn, but I can't download the attachment, my st*pid Quicktime trying to play it on the browser frown.gif


Right click and save as or download linked file as.

post #1751 of 36851
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Originally Posted by carlcamper View Post

Here is the link to the aforementioned samples:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84392

The drum impact sample is for comparison between Sennheiser and Grado, as I find that even the lower end SR80 reproduces this far better than the reference HD650. Can anyone with both brands confirm?


I hear a lot of sibilance in a couple of the samples you provided for testing.  I think your HD650's are fine.

post #1752 of 36851
I'm getting mine in a few hours. Kind of excited for it. I am also getting the Gilmore lite during the weekend from a headfi-er. Now, I would need a good DAC I guess.. Any good sugesttiins?
post #1753 of 36851

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Originally Posted by Roger Strummer View Post

 

Right click and save as or download linked file as.


Thanks Roger, I got it already now.

post #1754 of 36851
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Originally Posted by carlcamper View Post

Here is the link to the aforementioned samples:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84392

The drum impact sample is for comparison between Sennheiser and Grado, as I find that even the lower end SR80 reproduces this far better than the reference HD650. Can anyone with both brands confirm?


I tested this samples with Grado SR-60 and HD650 out from just my computer headphone out.

Bass, Grado is more punchy, but only mid-bass, I can clearly feel HD650 go lower.  It depends on what you think is 'better' actually.

Naturality, HD650 far more easier to listen, with Grado it gets too bright.

 

Grado also sound more 'honky' to my ears, too 'upper' mid-centric.

But yes, those recordings are s*cks.  Sound quite bad on both actually, but I still find it is more sibilance on Grado.

 

Hope that helps.

post #1755 of 36851

i plan on buying this headphone, are there multiple versions from it ? if so is one better than the others ? also i have a m-stage will it be ok with the opa627/class A mod or should i switch to the stock 2134 ?

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