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Got a 3.5mm cable for these and they really don't sound too bad coming straight out of my Galaxy S4, maybe slightly bass light but still nice sounding.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html

Interesting read for those looking for dacs/amps.
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My long-term plan is a pair of high-end orthos (Audeze LCD3), and a Ray Samuels Dark Star.  But for now, the budget is much smaller.  I have already purchased an ALO Audio Island.  My budget for cans is $500 max.  I'm considering the HD-650.  What are your thoughts on the Island's ability to drive the HD-650?  Or, if you have another recommendation for my $500?  I'm a headphone virgin.  My musical taste run the gamut, from Metallica to Mozart to Miles Davis to Alison Krauss, and everything in between.  Thanks, Matt.

 

Hi Jeff - the hd650's are very nice all-arounders as long as you're not looking for the last word in treble sparkle.  If you can conclude anything from the >1,000 pages of this thread (and the even longer predecessor hd650 thread), it is that a whole lot of us really enjoy these phones and continue enjoying them regularly even after investing in costlier flagships.

 

One word of caution in response to your post - I would research very carefully before choosing to invest your funds in a rsa dark star.  You can purchase the boards and build a very similar amp for a few hundred dollars (see http://www.head-fi.org/t/654371/eddie-current-diy-amplifier-monolith ), and many of the electrical engineers on these boards seem to agree that the dark star design just isn't that great to begin with (one, for example, describing it as: "Thousands of dollars for a gainclone in a fancy box with dodgy anodizing").  There are a lot of great flagship amps out there.  My sense, for whatever its worth, is that this just isn't one of them.  

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Hello everyone,

 

I am a newbie, both in this forum as in the world of audio, at least considering the terminology and experience.

 

I recently discovered my love for the Sennheiser HD 600 and 650. I do hear a difference between them, especially regarding the treble, as the 600 is a little harsher (or more detailed? i am not sure). But some songs acutally sound pretty much the same to me on both headphones, so it is not a huge difference to me.

That also makes it extremely hard to decide which of these two I'm gonna keep. I like both a lot, the 650 seems to be a little more relaxing, which can be good at times, but maybe bad too when you like it fresh.

 

For now I am using the fiio e17 as dac+amp, cause I first wanted to find a nice headphone and adjust the setup accordingly afterwards. I plan to build the Bottlehead Crack, but it will take some time, I am a total beginner in that area. So I will have to make my decision with the e17.

 

Which of these two would you say scales better with a better amp, especially with the Crack?

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Both the 600 and 650 scale well with better amps and dacs. So it would be about the same. Remember this is the 650 appreciation thread. :wink:

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Without reading a thousand plus pages can someone expand on or deny that the "new" 650 is indeed an UPGRADE to the 600, instead of simply being DIFFERENT from the 600 as it was previously? 

 

From what I understand they were sufficiently different before to suit different tastes, but the NEW 650 apparently does everything the 600 does but better. 

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The same hd650/hd600 debate pops up from time to time, and there's no right answer.

Compare the FR graphs below and pick your poison. hd650's have a little bit of mid-bass bloat (which makes them sound fuller but can also obscure details), hd600's have a mild treble peak around 2.5khz which *can* make them sound more clear. On the downside, there are a lot of instruments (e.g. violin, piano, trumpet, etc.) that play fundamental frequencies > 2.5khz - so the hd600's will actually make some treble notes (not just overtones) sound louder than they are on the recording. For me, that's a big strike against them, and I prefer hd650's to 600's (when I'm not listening to my hd800's). Oh and the paint job on the hd600's is fugly!

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Thank you skeptic. Exactly what I was looking for. 

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Happy to help!

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Approximately how many hours to burn these phones in....or is there any burn in on these at all.

 

I know many people don't believe there is such a thing...but those that do ....how long.

 

Thanks for any help.

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Approximately how many hours to burn these phones in....or is there any burn in on these at all.

I know many people don't believe there is such a thing...but those that do ....how long.

Thanks for any help.
Well atleast after 100hours there might be some change in sound. That is atleast what my ears experienced smily_headphones1.gif
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Around 100-150 is good. 

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Around 100-150 is good. 

And if it has been playing since 2007, the veil might be loosened as well ;)

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And if it has been playing since 2007, the veil might be loosened as well ;)

 

There is a veil. :blink:

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Around 100-150 is good. 

 

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Well atleast after 100hours there might be some change in sound. That is atleast what my ears experienced smily_headphones1.gif

Of the headphones that I own, the HD650s benefited most from burn-in. For me, the big difference become apparent from about 80 hours onwards. What is often not said is that good amplification is important. Coming out of the M-DAC headphone socket, the HD650s have a closed-in quality. Through Gungnir/Lyr, it's a different beast. Forgiving as far as recordings are concerned - yes... but they reward decent amplification. This is good news, really. They sound good with what you have and really award upgrades. IMO


Edited by Amictus - 2/27/14 at 6:16am
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