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post #15796 of 36844
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

I agree.

 

The HD650 presets the music as the producers wants you to hear it.  The HD800 is ideal for someone that wants to listen to and exaggerate the difference in to their gears, studio use for tracking errors in the treble, perhaps classical listeners and people that enjoy a colored sound that likes their soundscape "enhanced" by adding treble to the entire soundscape.

 

The HD650 for everything else, and if one wants to hear more details whilst listening to their music akin to how the producer wants it to sound and sacrifice just little tune purity I recommend the T1.

 

:popcorn:

 

hehe...this is fun, everyone has his say..and everyone goes home a winner !! 

 

Must say i did enjoy all the hd800 he6 T1 LCDs 650 600 for what they do to the sound in their own special ways.

 

edit...its criminal.. forgotten about my baby D7k...so so sorry. 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 2/8/14 at 3:51am
post #15797 of 36844
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

 

hehe...this is fun, everyone has his say..and everyone goes home a winner !! 

 

Must say i did enjoy all the hd800 he6 T1 LCDs 650 600 for what they do to the sound in their own special ways.

 

edit...its criminal.. forgotten about my baby D7k...so so sorry. 

 

:D  Yeah - its all good...we can make education fun again!

post #15798 of 36844
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

I agree.

 

The HD650 presets the music as the producers wants you to hear it.  The HD800 is ideal for someone that wants to listen to and exaggerate the difference in to their gears, studio use for tracking errors in the treble, perhaps classical listeners and people that enjoy a colored sound that likes their soundscape "enhanced" by adding treble to the entire soundscape.

 

The HD650 for everything else, and if one wants to hear more details whilst listening to their music akin to how the producer wants it to sound and sacrifice just little tune purity I recommend the T1.

 

:popcorn:

 

As I regularly listen to both the 650's and T1 on a daily bases I was surprised at just how much detail the 650's are capable of. Often I would listen with the T1 and think I have not heard that before on the 650's but going back to the senns knowing what to listen for and when with the 650's nine out of ten times I could make out the same details. The main drawback is that the finer details on the 650's are for a better word buried by being homogenized within the senns sonic caricature and very little if any of their associated finer macro details come through.

 

With the T1 for example the details are not only more clearly heard, they are also defined by having their own individual subtle nuances of tones and textures which are just not present on the HD650 and although this does not detract from the enjoyment of general every day listening when on the pc etc.

 

On those rare occasions you get the chance to just sit quietly listen and focus those little extra details are nice to hear. 

 

The timbre of vocals, little metal cymbals of a tambourine as they vibrate on both sides when shaken, plucks on strings the woodiness of instruments the bounce back on a kick-drum or a sense of hollowness to an acoustic guitar or a feel for the density of the wood castanets are made of.

 

The transparency of those subtle nuances of tones and textures are what draw me into the music whenever I get the chance just to kick back and listen and get lost in the richness of the sound.


Edited by JamieMcC - 2/8/14 at 4:54am
post #15799 of 36844
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post
 

Ok -

 

Über Bifrost (non usb) + Crack w/ SB + HD650 = ~$1200 used. Could vary based on build and tube compliment.

UB (non usb) + Vali + HD800 = ~$1400 used. You could do better if a bargain HD800 is nabbed (not uncommon)

 

So a $200 differential at most? Hardly insurmountable.

 

Here is what I have invested:

 

hd650 $380 NIB

crack wSB, tubes and lot's of upgrades $600

uberfrost used $320

 

$1300

 

Ironically, I am next in line for an hd800. :eek: It came up for sale and the sub $1k price was way to good not to offer on. I could soon be in possession of both the 650 and 800 with the Crack to test them with. :veryevil:

post #15800 of 36844
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Originally Posted by yonitaun View Post
 

So, I finally got around to building the crack I bought during the Bottlehead free speedball sale last year.  Had to see what all the fuss is about.

 

I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed.  I don't have any experience w/ any of the other phones in Sennheisers line up, but you can count me 'on board' the 650/crack train.

 

An incredibly beautiful sounding combo.

 

 

Very good looking build! Black bifrost FTW!!!!

post #15801 of 36844
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Originally Posted by JamieMcC View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

I agree.

 

The HD650 presets the music as the producers wants you to hear it.  The HD800 is ideal for someone that wants to listen to and exaggerate the difference in to their gears, studio use for tracking errors in the treble, perhaps classical listeners and people that enjoy a colored sound that likes their soundscape "enhanced" by adding treble to the entire soundscape.

 

The HD650 for everything else, and if one wants to hear more details whilst listening to their music akin to how the producer wants it to sound and sacrifice just little tune purity I recommend the T1.

 

:popcorn:

 

As I regularly listen to both the 650's and T1 on a daily bases I was surprised at just how much detail the 650's are capable of. Often I would listen with the T1 and think I have not heard that before on the 650's but going back to the senns knowing what to listen for and when with the 650's nine out of ten times I could make out the same details. The main drawback is that the finer details on the 650's are for a better word buried by being homogenized within the senns sonic caricature and very little if any of their associated finer macro details come through.

 

With the T1 for example the details are not only more clearly heard, they are also defined by having their own individual subtle nuances of tones and textures which are just not present on the HD650 and although this does not detract from the enjoyment of general every day listening when on the pc etc.

 

On those rare occasions you get the chance to just sit quietly listen and focus those little extra details are nice to hear. 

 

The timbre of vocals, little metal cymbals of a tambourine as they vibrate on both sides when shaken, plucks on strings the woodiness of instruments the bounce back on a kick-drum or a sense of hollowness to an acoustic guitar or a feel for the density of the wood castanets are made of.

 

The transparency of those subtle nuances of tones and textures are what draw me into the music whenever I get the chance just to kick back and listen and get lost in the richness of the sound.

If only my budget could magically expand... *dreams on*

 

Until then it seems like the next best thing is saving up for the best buddy of the HD650's - via popular vote.

 

Even then, I'm quite content with the O2 + ODAC combination with the HD650's. There are some tracks I find lacking at times: some in which my beyer dt250-80's do better on. Then again it could be attributed to a mixture of factors such as the slim possibility of me learning how to identify crappy recorded and/or mastered tracks from more revealing headphones, or that my beyers just work better with that combination. But with that said, I cannot seem to say that it "does" sound better than my HD650's. I guess this is me trying to explain what neutral sounding stuff is like..

 

Now I'm just thinking it odd that I may be just connecting my midget of an ODAC to the Crack.

post #15802 of 36844
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Originally Posted by JacobLee89 View Post
 

If only my budget could magically expand... *dreams on*

 

Until then it seems like the next best thing is saving up for the best buddy of the HD650's - via popular vote.

 

Even then, I'm quite content with the O2 + ODAC combination with the HD650's. There are some tracks I find lacking at times: some in which my beyer dt250-80's do better on. Then again it could be attributed to a mixture of factors such as the slim possibility of me learning how to identify crappy recorded and/or mastered tracks from more revealing headphones, or that my beyers just work better with that combination. But with that said, I cannot seem to say that it "does" sound better than my HD650's. I guess this is me trying to explain what neutral sounding stuff is like..

 

Now I'm just thinking it odd that I may be just connecting my midget of an ODAC to the Crack.

 

I think that you could attach the odac onto the back end of the crack and it would look nice. Get a set of psyt cables or similar and you're set. 

post #15803 of 36844
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Originally Posted by JamieMcC View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

I agree.

 

The HD650 presets the music as the producers wants you to hear it.  The HD800 is ideal for someone that wants to listen to and exaggerate the difference in to their gears, studio use for tracking errors in the treble, perhaps classical listeners and people that enjoy a colored sound that likes their soundscape "enhanced" by adding treble to the entire soundscape.

 

The HD650 for everything else, and if one wants to hear more details whilst listening to their music akin to how the producer wants it to sound and sacrifice just little tune purity I recommend the T1.

 

:popcorn:

 

As I regularly listen to both the 650's and T1 on a daily bases I was surprised at just how much detail the 650's are capable of. Often I would listen with the T1 and think I have not heard that before on the 650's but going back to the senns knowing what to listen for and when with the 650's nine out of ten times I could make out the same details. The main drawback is that the finer details on the 650's are for a better word buried by being homogenized within the senns sonic caricature and very little if any of their associated finer macro details come through.

 

With the T1 for example the details are not only more clearly heard, they are also defined by having their own individual subtle nuances of tones and textures which are just not present on the HD650 and although this does not detract from the enjoyment of general every day listening when on the pc etc.

 

On those rare occasions you get the chance to just sit quietly listen and focus those little extra details are nice to hear. 

 

The timbre of vocals, little metal cymbals of a tambourine as they vibrate on both sides when shaken, plucks on strings the woodiness of instruments the bounce back on a kick-drum or a sense of hollowness to an acoustic guitar or a feel for the density of the wood castanets are made of.

 

The transparency of those subtle nuances of tones and textures are what draw me into the music whenever I get the chance just to kick back and listen and get lost in the richness of the sound.

 

I agree.  The HD800 never will be a good upgrade to the HD650 - it has an entirely different soundscape.  The T1 overall is a much more balanced headphone and with transient attacks about the same as the HD800.  The HD800 is an excellent headphone, just not for me.  I think for most modern music, the bass-lines that drive the rhythm has not been done better than the T1.

post #15804 of 36844
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Originally Posted by yonitaun View Post
 

So, I finally got around to building the crack I bought during the Bottlehead free speedball sale last year.  Had to see what all the fuss is about.

 

I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed.  I don't have any experience w/ any of the other phones in Sennheisers line up, but you can count me 'on board' the 650/crack train.

 

An incredibly beautiful sounding combo.

 

 

 

Is that a stock case on the Crack, or did you build something on your own?

 

Very nice BTW...

post #15805 of 36844
I've just ordered the NAD viso for portable use. Apparently it's FR is supposed to be very close to the one that's being developed by Harman at the minute to better represent speakers in a room. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the 650s because I feel these are very close to speakers in a room sound already. The graph on inner fidelity makes them look very bass heavy so I will probably hate them, but apparently this is the more 'accurate' response that represents good speakers in a normal room.
post #15806 of 36844
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Very good looking build! Black bifrost FTW!!!!

 

Thanks, Matt.

You recognize those PBJs?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post
 

 

 

Is that a stock case on the Crack, or did you build something on your own?

 

Very nice BTW...

 

Thank you.  

No, it's not the stock base. That's something I came up with.

post #15807 of 36844
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Originally Posted by yonitaun View Post
 

 

Thanks, Matt.

You recognize those PBJs?

 

 

 

 

Thank you.  

No, it's not the stock base. That's something I came up with.

 

Dang..:eek: And they look good too.:biggrin:

post #15808 of 36844
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Originally Posted by yonitaun View Post
 

 

Thanks, Matt.

You recognize those PBJs?

 

 

 

 

Thank you.  

No, it's not the stock base. That's something I came up with.

 

u guys noticed those wood planks at the back...slurpppppppssssssss

post #15809 of 36844

Since we're talking investment-

 

HD 650- $291 (Senn Black Friday sale 2012)

Crack + Speedball (SB free from that site) $279

TS-5998 tube $65 (because I'm a boss)

Tung-sol 12AU7 tube $19 Ebay

 

Total $654. Wow when I break it down like that, that makes me exceptionally happy considering I haven't even felt the slighted itch of upgraditus in almost a year.

post #15810 of 36844
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Originally Posted by dxanex View Post
 

Since we're talking investment-

 

HD 650- $291 (Senn Black Friday sale 2012)

Crack + Speedball (SB free from that site) $279

TS-5998 tube $65 (because I'm a boss)

Tung-sol 12AU7 tube $19 Ebay

 

Total $654. Wow when I break it down like that, that makes me exceptionally happy considering I haven't even felt the slighted itch of upgraditus in almost a year.

 

Food for thought

 

Valab 23 step ladder Attenuator $30

JFX Premium Metallized Polypropylene Film Capacitors 100uf 250v 2 x $32

JFX Premium Metallized Polypropylene Film Capacitors 2.2uf 250v 1 x $3

Russian K72P6 Teflon bypass capacitor  (silver one) 0.056uf $3

 

The results are very much grin inducing.

 

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