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I'll definitely get a cable eventually. Mainly because the stock 650 cable is just too long. But, I would also like to see if it makes an improvement SQ wise. I've heard many differing opinions on the matter here on headfi. I don't know though, I may be one of those people that see a brand new shiny cable and imagine an improvement to make myself feel better lol. I will get a little taste soon as I have an ALO LOD on the way to replace my Fiio L3. I'll probably get one of Zombie_X's cables as I feel they're very well priced. I wouldn't feel so bad about spending $150 on a cable and not noticing anything. It would still be shorter and look very cool. But, if I up and spent close to $300 on a cable and it didn't offer something noticeable, I would feel pretty crusty to say the least. I mean that's more than I paid for the phones! AMP/DAC are definitely first on the to-do list though.

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I get my HD650s on Thursday along with the Cardas replacement cable. I'll be listening with absolute scrutiny and possibly taking advantage of HeadRoom's 30 day guarantee...

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Originally Posted by CoryGillmore View Post

I just love portable amps for some reason. I've already got a Predator which I think drives the 650 pretty well. Do you guys have experience with any other portables that drive the 650 better. I'm kinda hoping to trade or sell the Pred and get something else as I don't really need the DAC functionality like I thought I did. Suggestions? Pico Slim, Protector (SE mode more than likely), SR71a, Pico are some I'm really eying.


Have you tried P-51 Mustang?  It was quit good with HD650.

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Anyone have experience with the Cardas replacement cable that HeadRoom sells?

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Have you tried P-51 Mustang?  It was quit good with HD650.


I personally dislike that combo and the price of the P-51 only increases my dislike when there's better available for less.  Maybe not better in matchbox size, but I'd only recommend that amp if its matchbox size is very important to you.  Only then will the price be <grumble>....hmmmm.... aahhh... ok.  </grumble>


Edited by aimlink - 9/1/10 at 8:18am
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I personally dislike that combo and the price of the P-51 only increases my dislike when there's better available for less.  Maybe not better in matchbox size, but I'd only recommend that amp if its matchbox size is very important to you.  Only then will the price be <grumble>....hmmmm.... aahhh... ok.  </grumble>


So what do you think is the best portable for HD650?  Actually I see a lot of people sell second hand P-51 for much less :)  I tried with SR-71, but hmm, ... I just don't like it.

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So what do you think is the best portable for HD650?  Actually I see a lot of people sell second hand P-51 for much less :)  I tried with SR-71, but hmm, ... I just don't like it.


I can't give such a recommendation RedBull.  I can only share my experience with the Mustang when compared with small form factor and cheaper non-portables and also when using no amp at all.  I was sorely disappointed with the Mustang considering what it brought to the listening experience for the money.  Definitely more volume, but not much else.

 

I no longer use my P-51 Mustang even with my portable cans (IE8, W3, ATH-ESW9A's or SE530's), and will likely sell it as well for a give away price.  I suspect it has the same influence as an expensive cable, but I have no proof, so take the claim as is given, i.e., as a mere suspicion.

 

I've never thought of the HD650's as a portable can and never explored it as such.  I just plugged it in the P-51 as a brief experiment out of curiosity.  I never tried the HD650's with any other portable amp so can't give an opinion either way.


Edited by aimlink - 9/1/10 at 9:38am
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I feel like a broken record, and I apologize if I'm actually being one. These threads have many repeated comments and as they grow it becomes less and less realistic for newcomers to peruse all comments.

 

I'm using the (portable) Headstage Arrow HE12 with the HD650s and it drives them with ease. It's an extremely versatile, powerfull (up to 12v output with the variable voltage sensor) and small amp. $260 USD won't hurt as badly as others. And with three-position gain and impedance switches, you can dial it in with 32 Ohm to 300 Ohm phones. There are so many smart features I won't list them all. Read this review by dfkt at ABI.

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So what do you think is the best portable for HD650?  Actually I see a lot of people sell second hand P-51 for much less :)  I tried with SR-71, but hmm, ... I just don't like it.

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Any recommendation for an after-market SE cable?

I currently use a Cardas, which is an improvement over the stock cable, but I will probably sell it because I don't need a 10 feet long cable.

I know the Zu Mobius is highly rated but it costs more than my amp, and it doesn't make sense :-)

What about the Moon Audio Silver Dragon, the Vampire or the APS v3? Any other option?

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Ken at ALOAudio makes gorgeous quality re-cables.

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Any recommendation for an after-market SE cable?

I currently use a Cardas, which is an improvement over the stock cable, but I will probably sell it because I don't need a 10 feet long cable.

I know the Zu Mobius is highly rated but it costs more than my amp, and it doesn't make sense :-)

What about the Moon Audio Silver Dragon, the Vampire or the APS v3? Any other option?

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I feel like a broken record, and I apologize if I'm actually being one. These threads have many repeated comments and as they grow it becomes less and less realistic for newcomers to peruse all comments.

 

I'm using the (portable) Headstage Arrow HE12 with the HD650s and it drives them with ease. It's an extremely versatile, powerfull (up to 12v output with the variable voltage sensor) and small amp. $260 USD won't hurt as badly as others. And with three-position gain and impedance switches, you can dial it in with 32 Ohm to 300 Ohm phones. There are so many smart features I won't list them all. Read this review by dfkt at ABI.






I would love to try the arrow. Would you be willing to swap for a couple of weeks and try my Predator?
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Ken at ALOAudio makes gorgeous quality re-cables.


 

 

I find my 18awg ALO SXC Cryo cable for my HD650's to be ugly and not so user friendly.   OTOH, the Silver Dragons are nice.

 

I quite like the 22awg ALO SXC Cryo cable that I got for my K702's.
 

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I'll consider. I'll PM you.

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I would love to try the arrow. Would you be willing to swap for a couple of weeks and try my Predator?
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I can't give such a recommendation RedBull.  I can only share my experience with the Mustang when compared with small form factor and cheaper non-portables and also when using no amp at all.  I was sorely disappointed with the Mustang considering what it brought to the listening experience for the money.  Definitely more volume, but not much else.

 

I no longer use my P-51 Mustang even with my portable cans (IE8, W3, ATH-ESW9A's or SE530's), and will likely sell it as well for a give away price.  I suspect it has the same influence as an expensive cable, but I have no proof, so take the claim as is given, i.e., as a mere suspicion.

 

I've never thought of the HD650's as a portable can and never explored it as such.  I just plugged it in the P-51 as a brief experiment out of curiosity.  I never tried the HD650's with any other portable amp so can't give an opinion either way.


The Portable Headroom Micro Amp (though not match box size) can drive them very well. I have yet to find a "matchbox" size amp to drive them to adequate levels.

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I just recently got my HD650s and they have about 10 hours of burn in. I have to say, at this point, I'm not super impressed with them. I'm using lossless files and the HeadRoom Desktop amp / DAC. My question for all of you 650 lovers: does the sound substantially improve with proper burn in? I'm asking because from my experience, some headphones require more burn in than others to reach their sweet spot.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

PS - I also purchased the Cardas replacement cable. I noticed a slight difference, but possibly not enough to justify the cost. I don't know... Maybe I'm jumping the gun and trying to form opinions too soon.


Edited by jchandler3 - 9/3/10 at 8:44am
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