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I've really been considering going solid state. I've been trying to find a pair of Sylvania Gold Brand 5654s for my Little Dot MK III. So far no luck and I know mine are getting near their end. I'm a little put off by the "unobtainium" levels that NOS tubes are getting to. I'm not really interested in paying premiums for NOS tubes when your next pair might be your last. You get acclimated to one sound signature and POOF no more of those tubes and you'll never get to hear that sound again. 

So fellow HD650 lovers, what are your thoughts on solid state amps? I've also been looking at the Schiit Lyr. (With the reasoning that finding 1 pair of matched NOS tubes is easier than finding 1 pair of matched GB 5654 and 1 pair of matched 6N6P-IR.) 

Another thing that I've noticed with the HD650 and the Little Dot MK III. To get the small details up to a level that does them justice I have to turn the volume up louder than I'd like to. So I'm not really looking for an amp with more power (assuming power = volume) but more detail at lower volumes. 

P.S. If you know of a tube amp that sounds great with out crazy expensive NOS tubes I'm all ears. smily_headphones1.gif I just hate thinking that I might be missing something because my *hypothetical* Lyr doesn't have Seimen CCa tubes or WA6 SE isn't using a hard to find USAF 596 rectifier, etc. Just knowing that there is more to be had from an amp but I'm going to have to dump more money on an expendable item kills me. 
Edited by Anavel0 - 2/3/14 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post
 

P.S. If you know of a tube up that sounds great with out crazy expensive NOS tubes I'm all ears. :)  Just knowing that there is more to be had from an amp but I'm going to have to dump more money on an expendable item kills me. 

Find someone to build you a Spud amp based on the 6CL6 pentode. Great TV video tube and dirt cheap.

This one has output transformers and a 6CA4 rectifier but you can also built a 6CL6 OTL amp very cheap and nice...

I enjoy mine with HD600s

AppleMark

post #15678 of 18485

i have to bring u guys back to the old faithful Darkvoice336se...

dun need no paired NOS tubes..just ONE of 6AS7 n one of 6SN7, 

and u get this lovely full bodied lush sound out of the hd650.

post #15679 of 18485

Just pick up a Burson Soloist and all your tube worries are over.

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try one of these one tube, your choice, cheap, expensive, nos, I have been rolling tubes for this and the most I have spent on one tube was $24.00.  http://garage1217.com/garage1217_diy_tube_headphone_amplifiers_004.htm

You also might want to check out this page here....http://www.head-fi.org/t/702826/project-ember-tube-rolling   it is coming along fine


Edited by connieflyer - 2/3/14 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The lyr is a good pairing with the 650 IMO. I'll call it an 8 of 10 depending on which tubes are used. I have not heard the Valhalla. I'd encourage you to find a crack builder local though. As far as I'm concerned, the crack is 10/10 with the 650. 

 

After getting the lyr again today and having spend several hours evaluating the lyr head to head against the Crack I will have to adjust the numbers I designated above. I'm giving the lyr on decent after market tubes, a 7/10 with the 650. The stock Crack is a 10/10. I suppose that the Crack with speedball will be an 11/10. :blink:

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This might sound like a silly question....but what is the best amp to pair with the 650's if you have no interest in the BHC?

 

I worked as a welder for a few years. Give me iron and steel to work with, not the little fiddly bits. I watched the video posted above and have zero interest at all in bothering with that or paying for a completed build. Hell even the girlfriend said it looks like crap and she usually thinks my new toys are neat.

 

Any suggestions? =)

... How do you know its crap? Based off the video? 


Edited by wolfetan44 - 2/3/14 at 7:25pm
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Still enjoying my HD650 with the Asgard 2.  I'm looking to pickup a Cambridge Audio DACMagic 100 soon-ish.  If that doens't give a good sound, the next try is for the Bifrost.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

After getting the lyr again today and having spend several hours evaluating the lyr head to head against the Crack I will have to adjust the numbers I designated above. I'm giving the lyr on decent after market tubes, a 7/10 with the 650. The stock Crack is a 10/10. I suppose that the Crack with speedball will be an 11/10. :blink:

 

Sounds about right!  I just need to find a 5998 :(

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Still enjoying my HD650 with the Asgard 2.  I'm looking to pickup a Cambridge Audio DACMagic 100 soon-ish.  If that doens't give a good sound, the next try is for the Bifrost.

With HD800 I prefer DacMagic Plus over Bifrost Uber
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With HD800 I prefer DacMagic Plus over Bifrost Uber

 

Care to explain why? If you don't mind me asking, that is :).

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post
 

... How do you know its crap? Based off the video? 


We do not like the looks of it.

 

It might sound amazing....but she does not want this sitting in our living room. She says the schiit offerings look fine.

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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post

I've really been considering going solid state. I've been trying to find a pair of Sylvania Gold Brand 5654s for my Little Dot MK III. So far no luck and I know mine are getting near their end. I'm a little put off by the "unobtainium" levels that NOS tubes are getting to. I'm not really interested in paying premiums for NOS tubes when your next pair might be your last. You get acclimated to one sound signature and POOF no more of those tubes and you'll never get to hear that sound again. 

So fellow HD650 lovers, what are your thoughts on solid state amps? I've also been looking at the Schiit Lyr. (With the reasoning that finding 1 pair of matched NOS tubes is easier than finding 1 pair of matched GB 5654 and 1 pair of matched 6N6P-IR.) 

Another thing that I've noticed with the HD650 and the Little Dot MK III. To get the small details up to a level that does them justice I have to turn the volume up louder than I'd like to. So I'm not really looking for an amp with more power (assuming power = volume) but more detail at lower volumes. 

P.S. If you know of a tube amp that sounds great with out crazy expensive NOS tubes I'm all ears. smily_headphones1.gif I just hate thinking that I might be missing something because my *hypothetical* Lyr doesn't have Seimen CCa tubes or WA6 SE isn't using a hard to find USAF 596 rectifier, etc. Just knowing that there is more to be had from an amp but I'm going to have to dump more money on an expendable item kills me. 

 

Seems to me, you may be a solid state kinda guy.  Ain't nothing wrong with that.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

After getting the lyr again today and having spend several hours evaluating the lyr head to head against the Crack I will have to adjust the numbers I designated above. I'm giving the lyr on decent after market tubes, a 7/10 with the 650. The stock Crack is a 10/10. I suppose that the Crack with speedball will be an 11/10. :blink:

 

Hey bro, you don't think 7/10 is too low for the Lyr and 11/10 is to high for the Crack? This means the HD650 sounds 40% better on the Crack than the Lyr ;)   I give the DragonFly (alone) 7/10. :blink:

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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post

I've really been considering going solid state. I've been trying to find a pair of Sylvania Gold Brand 5654s for my Little Dot MK III. So far no luck and I know mine are getting near their end. I'm a little put off by the "unobtainium" levels that NOS tubes are getting to. I'm not really interested in paying premiums for NOS tubes when your next pair might be your last. You get acclimated to one sound signature and POOF no more of those tubes and you'll never get to hear that sound again. 

So fellow HD650 lovers, what are your thoughts on solid state amps? I've also been looking at the Schiit Lyr. (With the reasoning that finding 1 pair of matched NOS tubes is easier than finding 1 pair of matched GB 5654 and 1 pair of matched 6N6P-IR.) 

Another thing that I've noticed with the HD650 and the Little Dot MK III. To get the small details up to a level that does them justice I have to turn the volume up louder than I'd like to. So I'm not really looking for an amp with more power (assuming power = volume) but more detail at lower volumes. 

P.S. If you know of a tube amp that sounds great with out crazy expensive NOS tubes I'm all ears. smily_headphones1.gif I just hate thinking that I might be missing something because my *hypothetical* Lyr doesn't have Seimen CCa tubes or WA6 SE isn't using a hard to find USAF 596 rectifier, etc. Just knowing that there is more to be had from an amp but I'm going to have to dump more money on an expendable item kills me. 

Lehmann black cube is the best SS amp I've heard. It works so well with the Hd650. I also had the ld mk3 before it and when I got the Lehmann the 650 became a whole another phone.
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