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I have the vali with the HD 650, I think it's okay but it's not the best. There are better options. 

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Originally Posted by Zojokkeli View Post
 

Which amp would be the best step-up for the 650's from Vali, when I eventually get an itch to upgrade? BH Crack is the most appealing, but I'm not sure if I can easily find a guy in Finland who can put it together. Are there any noticeable difference between Valhalla and Lyr, or are there any European amps I should consider in similar price range?

 

The Valhalla is a bit brighter and pairs better with the HD650 than the Lyr, though there isn't day and night difference between them, IMO. 

post #15663 of 18501

I just got a pair of HD650's today. I'm loving it even tho its not yet burned in! What's the general recommended burn in time for these?

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You just put them on and enjoy.  The moment you realise your music has never sounded this good is the moment they're burned in.  :smile:

post #15665 of 18501

Wise words there! I may be just too easy to please. I'm using a simple setup of a Sony D335 PDCP and a C&C BH amp on the line out and its just whoa every time I put on a CD I thought I knew before! I must remember I have work tomorrow! Note to self: this is not to be an all nighter listening session...bwahahahaha!

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The lyr is a good pairing with the 650 IMO. I'll call it an 8 of 10 depending on which tubes are used. I have not heard the Valhalla. I'd encourage you to find a crack builder local though. As far as I'm concerned, the crack is 10/10 with the 650. 

As far as I can see, the amount of skill required to assemble a BH crack is almost similar to the amount of skill required in rewiring a headphone + headphone jack.

 

The only problem for me however, is that the most complex thing I've ever done IS playing about with wires. I'll admit to using lead free soldering wire -with 3% silver in it- on copper wires, and that I have no multimeter.

 

I'll still give building the BH crack a shot though.

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Originally Posted by Xtralglactic View Post
 

Wise words there! I may be just too easy to please. I'm using a simple setup of a Sony D335 PDCP and a C&C BH amp on the line out and its just whoa every time I put on a CD I thought I knew before! I must remember I have work tomorrow! Note to self: this is not to be an all nighter listening session...bwahahahaha!

I did get a change with mine after 100+ hours but they also sounded very good before the change. It won't work to let them play for several days. If you find that the 650 is your cup of tea, go get the crack and call it end game. 

 

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Originally Posted by JacobLee89 View Post
 

As far as I can see, the amount of skill required to assemble a BH crack is almost similar to the amount of skill required in rewiring a headphone + headphone jack.

 

The only problem for me however, is that the most complex thing I've ever done IS playing about with wires. I'll admit to using lead free soldering wire -with 3% silver in it- on copper wires, and that I have no multimeter.

 

I'll still give building the BH crack a shot though.

 

The crack is a straight forward build. But UNLIKE bottlehead would have you think, it is NOT for EVERYONE to build it. I would say that if you think than you have most of the skills and have or are willing to buy a soldering iron of good quality, then go for it. They do offer good customer support. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

The crack is a straight forward build. But UNLIKE bottlehead would have you think, it is NOT for EVERYONE to build it. I would say that if you think than you have most of the skills and have or are willing to buy a soldering iron of good quality, then go for it. They do offer good customer support. 

 

I've already spent weeks upon weeks of research before I landed my hands on a HD650.

 

If I spend around 1 hour visually checking each solder as I make it (i.e: cross referencing with forums, schematics, photographs, and 3 videos), I think I may be competent enough to build a crack. Though a bit exaggerated, I've come to learn from my own experiences that sometimes it takes a week to realise that the problem was in fact a poorly soldered joint.

 

That being said, I'm saving up for one of those, and of course with the SB upgrade.

 

I also need a multimeter.. Can't risk financial damage by busting up my HD650.

 

With all this being mentioned. Does anyone have both the O2 and the BH Crack? I'm just curious as to what sort of changes I could be expecting with the HD650s.

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All I can say is that the difference between the 02 and BHC with the 650 are monumental. I was never found of the 02 and it never breathed any life into the 650. 

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The InnerFidelity Crack build video by Tyll Hertzsens is a great place to start if contemplating the Crack. I doubt I would have pulled the trigger on mine if it was not for his video, having never soldered or used a multi meter prior it has some very helpful tips.  

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5rWCEux_BI

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This might sound like a silly question....but what is the best amp to pair with the 650's if you have no interest in the BHC?

 

I worked as a welder for a few years. Give me iron and steel to work with, not the little fiddly bits. I watched the video posted above and have zero interest at all in bothering with that or paying for a completed build. Hell even the girlfriend said it looks like crap and she usually thinks my new toys are neat.

 

Any suggestions? =)

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I have been using this amp for about 3-4 months and love it.  I had mine built so did not have any problems either.  Some people don't  like the open chasis, but it makes it easier to clean, a blast with canned air, done.  Also, you never have to worry about temperatures, being open it has plenty of air circulation. It is alot smaller than the crack so it does not take up some much room on the desktop, and personally I never like the look of the crack or the size.  The Ember is compact and has alot of features like auto bias if you want to tube roll.  All for less money than the crack.  YMMV but this is starting to gain some recognition and well deserved, Jeremy handles the customer service and the custom builds and he is meticulous with his work.    http://garage1217.com/garage1217_diy_tube_headphone_amplifiers_004.htm

post #15673 of 18501
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Originally Posted by Sorrows End View Post
 

This might sound like a silly question....but what is the best amp to pair with the 650's if you have no interest in the BHC?

 

I worked as a welder for a few years. Give me iron and steel to work with, not the little fiddly bits. I watched the video posted above and have zero interest at all in bothering with that or paying for a completed build. Hell even the girlfriend said it looks like crap and she usually thinks my new toys are neat.

 

Any suggestions? =)


I would definitely check out the Schiit Valhalla. I believe this headphone sounds great paired with a OTL valve amp. One of the projects I've got planned for later in the year is to build the Crack (I repair and build my own audio gear and think it'll be fun). I'd like another Valhalla for my bedroom, but think it'll be great to build and compare it with a Crack. I'll be sure to update this thread when I've built mine with my findings.

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Originally Posted by Sorrows End View Post
 

This might sound like a silly question....but what is the best amp to pair with the 650's if you have no interest in the BHC?

 

I worked as a welder for a few years. Give me iron and steel to work with, not the little fiddly bits. I watched the video posted above and have zero interest at all in bothering with that or paying for a completed build. Hell even the girlfriend said it looks like crap and she usually thinks my new toys are neat.

 

Any suggestions? =)

 

If you like harder to drive hp's ( think planar magetic) I really like the lyr. You can customize with tubes and it's just a beast. Great amp.

post #15675 of 18501
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Originally Posted by Sorrows End View Post

Hell even the girlfriend said it looks like crap and she usually thinks my new toys are neat.

Hahahaha, sorry but I perfectly know what you mean. My only hope to spend money on my audiophile crap is that my wife likes how it looks...biggrin.gif:D:o
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