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Were you planning on building the Crack yourself or buying one already built? I would absolutely get a Crack/Speed and a Modi, or a Bifrost Uber if you could afford it. I think a Crack/Speed and a Bifrost Uber is what I am going to get for my 'end game' setup. I have heard that set and I think you would have to spend a LOT of money to do better.

I know it's personal preference but you can replce Bifrost Uber with Dac Magic Plus
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The sonic differences between the HD600 and HD650 are very minimal and I've never found that much difference between them. The HD600 is slightly more neutral but the HD650 has the more euphonic sounding to me. 

How long have you been using them? Don’t forget the "brain burn-in".  

I'm sorry but I can't agree with you at all that they are very close in comparison to each other. I have had both the 600 and 650 at the same time and the difference was major to my ears!

I was using a single power slam tube amp and did a lot of tube rolling at the time, but nothing seemed to help my 650's get out of the dark so to speak. My preference does lean more to a brighter sound, but the 650 just took out all the detail I was looking for.

I am also a Grado lover, and one of my favorite headphones at the time was my Sony SA5000's, so I think you can understand why the 650 was not good for me and again I'm sorry to people that love that sound signature.
Edited by pedtool101 - 1/25/14 at 2:16pm
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^^ I just don't know why you bought an HD650.  Try the HD700 when you get a chance. 

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^^ I just don't know why you bought an HD650.  Try the HD700 when you get a chance. 

No big deal I sold it on head-fi lol. how is the brightness compare between the 650 and 700? Honestly I really like as close to neutral presentation as possible.
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No big deal I sold it on head-fi lol. how is the brightness compare between the 650 and 700? Honestly I really like as close to neutral presentation as possible.


Haha then grab an HD800 and be done. :D Full transparency.

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Haha then grab an HD800 and be done. :D Full transparency.

 

+1 

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Haha then grab an HD800 and be done. biggrin.gif Full transparency.

OMG don't make me have dreams tonight that It's gonna be in my hands tomorrow, I hate having nightmares lol! But when things get better for me financially, trust me I will own a pair for sure smily_headphones1.gif
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OMG don't make me have dreams tonight that It's gonna be in my hands tomorrow, I hate having nightmares lol! But when things get better for me financially, trust me I will own a pair for sure smily_headphones1.gif

Other options would be Beyer T1 and the HE-500. :beerchug: 

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Yea, I would love to one day get the HD800 too... but doesn't seem likely as I am currently very happy with my rig (the diminishing return curve just hurts a bit too much). Only change in the near future might just be a Crack OTL to compliment the Mjo.

 

HE 500 is superb too, but too uncomfortable for my gigantic head, so that was a deal breaker. Beyer T1... I find a bit underwhelming for the price... esp with it being priced so close to the HD800 (given it was only a brief impression from a local meet).


Edited by joebobbilly - 1/25/14 at 2:47pm
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Other options would be Beyer T1 and the HE-500. beerchug.gif  

Trust me 2 headphones that are very much on my list smily_headphones1.gif
post #15476 of 28453
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Originally Posted by pedtool101 View Post


I'm sorry but I can't agree with you at all that they are very close in comparison to each other. I have had both the 600 and 650 at the same time and the difference was major to my ears!

I was using a single power slam tube amp and did a lot of tube rolling at the time, but nothing seemed to help my 650's get out of the dark so to speak. My preference does lean more to a brighter sound, but the 650 just took out all the detail I was looking for.

I am also a Grado lover, and one of my favorite headphones at the time was my Sony SA5000's, so I think you can understand why the 650 was not good for me and again I'm sorry to people that love that sound signature.

 

I'm a Grado fan too.  And I think my HD650s and HF-2s compliment each other nicely.  The HF-2s would compliment the HD600s too.  Have you tried the Beyer T1?

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Yea, I would love to one day get the HD800 too... but doesn't seem likely as I am currently very happy with my rig (the diminishing return curve just hurts a bit too much). Only change in the near future might just be a Crack OTL to compliment the Mjo.

 

HE 500 is superb too, but too uncomfortable for my gigantic head, so that was a deal breaker. Beyer T1... I find a bit underwhelming for the price... esp with it being priced so close to the HD800 (given it was only a brief impression from a local meet).

 

Usually the T1s are 30% cheaper than the HD800s. 

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Haha then grab an HD800 and be done. :D Full transparency.

 

+1 

+2
Also you will have end game headphones unless you will go to STAX world
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There has been tons of debate on the screen variances of the Sennheisers.  Sennheiser, in a press release, said that due to changes in pricing/availability a change was made to the driver baffle screen and the change is cosmetic only.  I have a pair of black screen HD580 as well as silver/white screen HD580s.  I've not been able to tell any difference in sound between them.

 

There could be other factors in your audio-signal chain contributing to the muddy vocals. Without digging into that line of discussion, I would suggest trying the HD650's in other sources/amps if possible. Also, I would take apart the headphones and make sure the drivers are clean and have no dust/hair on them.

 

The K701/Q701 are very different headphones.  I found the treble energy of the K701 somewhat fatiguing and the extremely lean bass I found unsatisfactory for much of what I like to listen to. If another headphone is what you are looking for, I'd suggest the Sennheiser HD600 as an alternative.

 

I very much appreciate your input as you own both versions of the baffle screen. I didn't attempt to take apart my HD650's as they are like new. Even the pads look new and the headphones are kept protected from dust.

I also sold my Q701 because of the thin sound, which worked beautifully with classical music, but not so much with 70s and 80s rock and pop music. It's just on some songs that the vocals seem muddy, with an excess of mid bass. With most of my music, they sound relaxed and natural. Also, I'm amping them with a Fiio E10, not a very powerful nor bright device, so that might be having an effect too.

But from what I read, maybe the HD600 would have been a better choice for me, yes.


Edited by 80smusicboy - 1/25/14 at 6:29pm
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But from what I read, maybe the HD600 would have been a better choice for me, yes.

 

Not necessarily.  I had a chance to listen to a HD650 driven by a Bottlehead Crack amp recently.  This is an amp that was designed to compliment the higher impedance headphones like the Sennheisers and to say that I was impressed with the pairing would be an understatement.

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