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The FR graph means nothing till you plug in the hp into the and listen. :wink: 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The FR graph means nothing till you plug in the hp into the and listen. :wink: 

And it does sound pretty flat to me. By the way, amps are not cans, there is no acoustic coupling. Unless the manufacturer is a flat out liar it should really be flat. This is very easy to achieve in an amp. Cans are another story, you won't see the jiggly FR curves in amps that you see in cans as acoustics do not come into play for amps.

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I just bought a FiiO E12.  I'll use it for the next little bit and save up for a more hardcore DAC/AMP combo.  It will power the headphones which was my main concern.  Thank you all for your help!

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

And it does sound pretty flat to me. By the way, amps are not cans, there is no acoustic coupling. Unless the manufacturer is a flat out liar it should really be flat. This is very easy to achieve in an amp. Cans are another story, you won't see the jiggly FR curves in amps that you see in cans as acoustics do not come into play for amps.

 

And I have not heard a single fiio amp that sounds "flat" to my ears. I've heard quite a few including the e12 and owned most of the others. Fiio products are not historically know as "flat" sounding, nor do they sound that way to me. 

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I just used the E12 on my ATHM50s and it seemed to make the bass way huger, and it panned out the highs and mids a bit.  Interesting.

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Originally Posted by dtheory View Post
 

I just used the E12 on my ATHM50s and it seemed to make the bass way huger, and it panned out the highs and mids a bit.  Interesting.

 

That's about the way that I hear it as well...

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I was considering this is a DAC:

 

http://www.needledoctor.com/HRT-Music-Streamer-II-D-A-Converter_2

 

That and an Audioquest cinnamon usb cable

 

This guy is willing to sell to me for $150

 

Good deal?

Worth buying?

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

And I have not heard a single fiio amp that sounds "flat" to my ears. I've heard quite a few including the e12 and owned most of the others. Fiio products are not historically know as "flat" sounding, nor do they sound that way to me. 

I guess not everyone sees hears it the same way. I hope you're not using the little E06 as a reference point. :tongue:

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Originally Posted by dtheory View Post
 

I just used the E12 on my ATHM50s and it seemed to make the bass way huger, and it panned out the highs and mids a bit.  Interesting.

What do you mean by panned out?

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May I have some help on amping?

I will be receiving my HD650s soon and I am trying to decide on the amp. I mostly listen to jazz and some classic rock. My budget is approximately 300 euro and since I live in Europe, I have limited access to the Schit Lyr and the Bottlehead Crack which would make the obvious choice. My plan is to get the amp first and then get a DAC as well. 

So here are my options:

i) Musical Fidelity X-Can V8+X-PSU (used and rather cheap, ~200 euro)

ii) Audiolab M-DAC (used and rather cheap, ~350 euro but is the amp good enough -at least tolerable until I can afford a decent amp)

iii) Micromega MyZic (~250 euro)

iv) Little Dot mk IV (~250 euro)

v) La Figaro 336C (~230 euro)

vi) La Figaro 332C (~290 euro)

vii) La Figaro 332S (~320 euro)

What do you think I should do?

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Originally Posted by kxanthop View Post
 

May I have some help on amping?

I will be receiving my HD650s soon and I am trying to decide on the amp. I mostly listen to jazz and some classic rock. My budget is approximately 300 euro and since I live in Europe, I have limited access to the Schit Lyr and the Bottlehead Crack which would make the obvious choice. My plan is to get the amp first and then get a DAC as well. 

So here are my options:

i) Musical Fidelity X-Can V8+X-PSU (used and rather cheap, ~200 euro)

ii) Audiolab M-DAC (used and rather cheap, ~350 euro but is the amp good enough -at least tolerable until I can afford a decent amp)

iii) Micromega MyZic (~250 euro)

iv) Little Dot mk IV (~250 euro)

v) La Figaro 336C (~230 euro)

vi) La Figaro 332C (~290 euro)

vii) La Figaro 332S (~320 euro)

What do you think I should do?

Jasper9395 is selling a Crack in Europe.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/694928/bottlehead-crack-with-speedball-and-output-caps-upgrade

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Originally Posted by kxanthop View Post
 

May I have some help on amping?

I will be receiving my HD650s soon and I am trying to decide on the amp. I mostly listen to jazz and some classic rock. My budget is approximately 300 euro and since I live in Europe, I have limited access to the Schit Lyr and the Bottlehead Crack which would make the obvious choice. My plan is to get the amp first and then get a DAC as well. 

So here are my options:

i) Musical Fidelity X-Can V8+X-PSU (used and rather cheap, ~200 euro)

ii) Audiolab M-DAC (used and rather cheap, ~350 euro but is the amp good enough -at least tolerable until I can afford a decent amp)

iii) Micromega MyZic (~250 euro)

iv) Little Dot mk IV (~250 euro)

v) La Figaro 336C (~230 euro)

vi) La Figaro 332C (~290 euro)

vii) La Figaro 332S (~320 euro)

What do you think I should do?

I would move to a country that has better choices of hifi gear and no VAT. Just kidding :D I don't think you're going to find anyone that has listened to all of these, directly comparing them on the spot. Your answers are likely to be anecdotal. Doesn't the EU have good return policies for online purchases?

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I mean that as in on the "soundstage" the mids and highs (moreso the highs) were further out to the left and right in virtual soundspace.

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That was on one song in particular/one particular mix etc - I'm just noticing that regardless of the song it sounds way better with the amp.

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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

Jasper9395 is selling a Crack in Europe.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/694928/bottlehead-crack-with-speedball-and-output-caps-upgrade
Thanks for the suggestion. 300€ is already a stretch (my comfort zone is ~250€). The audiolab I have found locally, thus would be saving on shipping costs, plus is a combo unit. I wish I could afford the Crack, especially that one.
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

I would move to a country that has better choices of hifi gear and no VAT. Just kidding biggrin.gif  I don't think you're going to find anyone that has listened to all of these, directly comparing them on the spot. Your answers are likely to be anecdotal. Doesn't the EU have good return policies for online purchases?
This is a great suggestion. Actually leaving Greece would make a lot of sense, not just audio-wise! As far as I know there is no return policy whatsoever, so I will just have to rely on reviews and opinions.
Edited by kxanthop - 1/2/14 at 5:17pm
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