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post #14206 of 27689

Could someone please suggest a nice case for my beloved HD650s ??

Found this headphone case: http://www.slappa.com/HardBody-PRO-Full-Size-Headphone-case?sc=2&category=744 

Is it right for the HD650? If not, please suggest some other premium case, like this one...

post #14207 of 27689
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Originally Posted by BadBoySimran View Post
 

Could someone please suggest a nice case for my beloved HD650s ??

Found this headphone case: http://www.slappa.com/HardBody-PRO-Full-Size-Headphone-case?sc=2&category=744 

Is it right for the HD650? If not, please suggest some other premium case, like this one...

 

I have this exact Slappa case and confirm that the HD650s fit nicely into them, of course you would have to unplug the cables first though to make them fit.

post #14208 of 27689
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Originally Posted by GaryPham View Post
 

 

I have this exact Slappa case and confirm that the HD650s fit nicely into them, of course you would have to unplug the cables first though to make them fit.

That's good to know. Thanks.

But, unplugging the cables everytime I need to put them in the case - I wouldn't want that...

Do you think you could leave the cables on and still close the case partially, because I think I can live with that. But, wouldn't want to unplug the cables everytime I stash them away, as I use my HD650 intermittently.

post #14209 of 27689
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Originally Posted by marshallmole View Post
 

I just want to say that I find 650s sound so realistic as if I'm sitting right in a concert hall. There may be other great headphones but I doubt if they can be better in this aspect... The slightly rolled off treble and the slowness of the bass is what one typically get in a live concert. 

Trust me, theres better. There's a reason some headphones are $1000 and up..

post #14210 of 27689
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Originally Posted by Chris_Himself View Post
 

 

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I wouldn't say you're straight wrong, but there is a lot to say for balanced amps.

 

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Never the less:

 

Other than some anecdotes, I don't think I've ever seen any serious audio manufacturer come out and say that balanced is audibly different from single ended. 

 

I don't think I've ever seen any of the major headphone manufacturers say that either.

 

If there was an audible difference, we would have switched to balanced a long time ago, like we did when we switched from mono to stereo.

 

My understanding of balanced is that it is used for long cable runs.  See Below.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tuco1965 View Post
 

Isn't that more of a description of bridged amps?  Balanced I thought was about being able to use long cable runs while reducing noise.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_audio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridged_and_paralleled_amplifiers

 

At least that's what I always understood.

 

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Edited by upstateguy - 11/2/13 at 2:25pm
post #14211 of 27689
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
 

 

Never the less:

 

Other than some anecdotes, I don't think I've ever seen any serious audio manufacturer come out and say that balanced is audibly different from single ended. 

 

I don't think I've ever seen any of the major headphone manufacturers say that either.

 

If there was an audible difference, we would have switched to balanced a long time ago, like we did when we switched from mono to stereo.

 

My understanding of balanced is that it is used for long cable runs.  See Below.

 

 

 

 

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post #14212 of 27689
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post
 

Trust me, theres better. There's a reason some headphones are $1000 and up..

Yeah that's what I already admitted, if you get what I meant. I was simply trying to point out how I appreciate these cans. For now I am quite content with them, in the future I might spent some sum on the amping, but I doubt my ears could demand more than $1000... Mediocre ears, you know. ;)

post #14213 of 27689
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Originally Posted by marshallmole View Post
 
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post
 

Trust me, theres better. There's a reason some headphones are $1000 and up..

Yeah that's what I already admitted, if you get what I meant. I was simply trying to point out how I appreciate these cans. For now I am quite content with them, in the future I might spent some sum on the amping, but I doubt my ears could demand more than $1000... Mediocre ears, you know. ;)

Never know till ya try!;)

post #14214 of 27689
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Originally Posted by BadBoySimran View Post
 

That's good to know. Thanks.

But, unplugging the cables everytime I need to put them in the case - I wouldn't want that...

Do you think you could leave the cables on and still close the case partially, because I think I can live with that. But, wouldn't want to unplug the cables everytime I stash them away, as I use my HD650 intermittently.

 

Hmm, you can probably leave the cables plugged if you tilt ur HD650 in the case and not close it.  As you can see in the pic below, the HD650 is a very snug fit into the case, so if the cables were plugged in, you would risk bending the plug pins by forcing it into the case.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/kkLCiNe.jpg

post #14215 of 27689
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Originally Posted by BadBoySimran View Post
 

Could someone please suggest a nice case for my beloved HD650s ??

Found this headphone case: http://www.slappa.com/HardBody-PRO-Full-Size-Headphone-case?sc=2&category=744 

Is it right for the HD650? If not, please suggest some other premium case, like this one...

 

I have those, and they work nicely.  My only gripe is you need to un-extend the cups for them to fit their best.  Does that make since?

 

It will save your phones from a fall.  That I'm sure of...

post #14216 of 27689
I have to say...... broke out my old HD650s tonight for a good listen.

Albums: Deerhoof's "Friend Opportunity" and Decembrists "The Crane Wife."

I only take out my HD650s when I'm going to listen with 100% attention and no distraction. Otherwise, it's my HD600 for regular listening, HD598 for more casual listening, and IEMs for portable listening (IE800; SE315;E3c).

They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but after a lifetime of listening to lots of things, and all types of music (over 40 years), I have this to say simply about the HD650.

It sounds sweet.

You can argue until the cows come home about all the technical details, but for me the reality boils down to that: these are simply the most appealing transducers I've ever heard and, I think, ever will hear. It doesn't get any better.

Thanks for listening.



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post #14217 of 27689
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

Does this represent anything more than a single isolated case? 

Is the small difference shown audible?

Amps used?  Two different amps or single amp with both functions?

Same headphones but with different cables or two different headphones?

Single trial or 10 trials? 

What controls were used?

Does HeadRoom sell balanced cables?

post #14218 of 27689
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
 

Does this represent anything more than a single isolated case? 

Is the small difference shown audible?

Amps used?  Two different amps or single amp with both functions?

Same headphones but with different cables or two different headphones?

Single trial or 10 trials? 

What controls were used?

Does HeadRoom sell balanced cables?

 

I think the two frequency responses are very close.  Though, usually the balanced amps are superior. e.g.  Schiit Mjolnir vs Asgard

I don't think only balanced cables can make audible difference.

post #14219 of 27689

Saying people would have switched to balanced setups a long time ago if it had any merit is a little unfair. Balanced rigs are expensive, there usually is a recable associated with that, and obviously sometimes with the nature of head-fi, a balanced amp may not be the current "flavor of the week" here. The XLR has a history of being used for long runs of cables since the 3rd pin is connected to a shielded jacket which grounds any RFI the jacket picks up, dual XLR's both having their own ground and the shield. So you could run longer lengths before losing signal to noise from interference. XLR's have been selected in the headphone industry just because thats really one of the more simple plug options where each channel has it's own ground. The 4-pin is becoming more popular as the dual 3-pin is becoming somewhat obsolete if you're not shielding a mere 6ft cable haha.

 

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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

I think the two frequency responses are very close.  Though, usually the balanced amps are superior. e.g.  Schiit Mjolnir vs Asgard

I don't think only balanced cables can make audible difference.

 

You pay good money for that last 2% in this hobby. You cannot judge balanced vs unbalanced coming out of the same amp. By plugging it into the unbalanced section in some amps, they're using a coupling circuit which joins the two separate channels together anyway so it's fundamentally different than say, a true balanced topology which is separate from the power section to the output section.

 

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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
 

Does this represent anything more than a single isolated case? 

Is the small difference shown audible?

Amps used?  Two different amps or single amp with both functions?

Same headphones but with different cables or two different headphones?

Single trial or 10 trials? 

What controls were used?

Does HeadRoom sell balanced cables?

 

 

Headroom has sold Cardas balanced cables for some time. Headroom has a fantastic return policy so I think if the whole balanced thing was smoke and mirrors, they would have taken a lot of returns back in the day. They are the ones to bring it to the light.

 

The difference in balanced is not at the cable alone, but the topology of the DAC and amp as well you are right.

post #14220 of 27689

Put me in the camp of Balanced is Mythology for audio consumers.

 

It makes sense in music production, as you're trying to reduce/eliminate noise in a very noisy, potentially, electronic environment.  It is very important for microphone/analog/acoustic recordings of voice and acoustic instruments when you're looking for fine detail against a silky, quiet dark background.

 

For consumption..... not so much. :)

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