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post #14116 of 19449

Very good. :wink:

post #14117 of 19449
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It's Good or not?i don't understand sorry...


It means it is very silent. No hiss.

post #14118 of 19449
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Has some white noise aswell :-( this turned me off the Lyr

 

My first Lyr had some white noise (I returned it) but my current Lyr (the second one) is dead silent.

post #14119 of 19449
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And lyr not?because i'd buy the best between valhalla and lyr and lyr has much power than vhalalla..it's right?!

 

IMO, both the Lyr and Valhalla have enough power to drive the HD650. I prefer the Valhalla only for HD650, for other cans (e.g. HD700) I do like the Lyr more. 

post #14120 of 19449
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IMO, both the Lyr and Valhalla have enough power to drive the HD650. I prefer the Valhalla only for HD650, for other cans (e.g. HD700) I do like the Lyr more. 
So do u have 2 amp? I study yet and i don't work..i can buy only one now..so i would buy the best buy product
post #14121 of 19449
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So do u have 2 amp? I study yet and i don't work..i can buy only one now..so i would buy the best buy product

 

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So do u have 2 amp? I study yet and i don't work..i can buy only one now..so i would buy the best buy product

 

No, I have the Lyr and a friend of mine has the Valhalla. The Valhalla is good for high impedance headphones so if you're not planning on getting any planars (Audeze or HiFiMAN), you're good, otherwise go for the Lyr as it will drive almost anything.

post #14122 of 19449
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No, I have the Lyr and a friend of mine has the Valhalla. The Valhalla is good for high impedance headphones so if you're not planning on getting any planars (Audeze or HiFiMAN), you're good, otherwise go for the Lyr as it will drive almost anything.
I don't know if hd650 will be my last headphone(definitive headphone) because this world is much expensive.. So i think that i'll buy lyr because i can have much solution in the future.
I have another question now..so i connect hd650 at amp..but how can i connect iPod to amp?
Sorry for off topic.
post #14123 of 19449

3.5mm headphone plug to dual RCA plug (the normal red and white plugs) is the simplest cable to use.

post #14124 of 19449
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3.5mm headphone plug to dual RCA plug (the normal red and white plugs) is the simplest cable to use.
And iPod to amp?!? I have the dock connection on iPod
post #14125 of 19449
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Originally Posted by acud1985 View Post


And iPod to amp?!? I have the dock connection on iPod

If you have the dock connection from the iPod there should already be a red cable and white cable that comes off the back. Those would plug in to your amp. Then your headphones would plug in to the amp. That'll be an easy set up. :) 

 

If you have to buy the cable I described above, they are pretty cheap. So don't worry about the cost of it. 

post #14126 of 19449

Hi everyone,

 

If any of you have read any of my previous posts, you'd know that I am still very new at having a good audio station like most of you here. I bought the HD 650's about a month ago and love them. I am trying to upgrade components to get the most out of the HD 650's but have run into an issue that I am sure some of you would know the answer. Currently I am running a simple setup with a Creative Titanium HD internal PC soundcard to a FiiO E09K amp. I was looking to upgrade both to get the most out of the HD 650's and was first looking for a DAC. Some members here have suggested going with a Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC to pair with the HD650's so I have been seriously looking into it and was thinking of buying it but have a couple questions about it. 

 

When I talked to a rep from Schiit, he said that if I connect the Bifrost to the Titanium HD via optical cable it would bypass the sound card's DAC. Is this true? I do not see how it would be so because wouldn't the signal be processed through the soundcard's DAC first before the signal is sent to the Bifrost? I would think I would need the USB option and set it as the default sound device in windows to bypass the card but I don't know.

 

Secondly, is it worth spending the $519 on the Bifrost Uber (with USB option) to replace the Titanium HD? Looking at the specs for both DAC's as posted by the respective manufacturer's, the DAC on the Titanium HD has better specs as far as Frequency Response, THD, and it looks like both have the same resolution (24 bit, 192 kHz). So would I notice a difference if I replaced the Titanium HD with a Bifrost Uber? Is it worth it?

 

Thank you for any help and advice. I know this post is mostly about a DAC but I want to get the most out of the HD650's on a small budget and I am still very new at this.

post #14127 of 19449
Yes it will bypass Titanium's DAC because you sending digital signal through SPIDF out
Also 519 will give you Uber analog board not just USB but you think that you don't need USB you can save 100 but add it later if needed
post #14128 of 19449
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Originally Posted by TheGame View Post
 

Hi everyone,

 

If any of you have read any of my previous posts, you'd know that I am still very new at having a good audio station like most of you here. I bought the HD 650's about a month ago and love them. I am trying to upgrade components to get the most out of the HD 650's but have run into an issue that I am sure some of you would know the answer. Currently I am running a simple setup with a Creative Titanium HD internal PC soundcard to a FiiO E09K amp. I was looking to upgrade both to get the most out of the HD 650's and was first looking for a DAC. Some members here have suggested going with a Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC to pair with the HD650's so I have been seriously looking into it and was thinking of buying it but have a couple questions about it. 

 

When I talked to a rep from Schiit, he said that if I connect the Bifrost to the Titanium HD via optical cable it would bypass the sound card's DAC. Is this true? I do not see how it would be so because wouldn't the signal be processed through the soundcard's DAC first before the signal is sent to the Bifrost? I would think I would need the USB option and set it as the default sound device in windows to bypass the card but I don't know.

 

Secondly, is it worth spending the $519 on the Bifrost Uber (with USB option) to replace the Titanium HD? Looking at the specs for both DAC's as posted by the respective manufacturer's, the DAC on the Titanium HD has better specs as far as Frequency Response, THD, and it looks like both have the same resolution (24 bit, 192 kHz). So would I notice a difference if I replaced the Titanium HD with a Bifrost Uber? Is it worth it?

 

Thank you for any help and advice. I know this post is mostly about a DAC but I want to get the most out of the HD650's on a small budget and I am still very new at this.

 

The rep from Schiit was right. The audio signal bypasses the card's DAC and goes straight to the Bifrost. The pure raw data is sent to the Bifrost instead of the Titanium's DAC. Does your motherboard have built in optical out? If so you might as well get rid of the sound card and just connect the Bifrost to your motherboard as you will be sending the same signal either way.

post #14129 of 19449

Thank you for the replies Olegausany and Tman5293. So is the Bifrost Uber really that much better? Looking at the specs between the two as far as DACs go, it looks like there isn't much of a difference, then again I am just learning this stuff that is why I am asking you guys who have more experience and knowledge in this. Will there be an audible difference justifiable to spend $419 or $519 for it? If so then I will take your advice and get it.

 

Thank you again for the replies, it is very much appreciated!

post #14130 of 19449
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Originally Posted by TheGame View Post
 

Thank you for the replies Olegausany and Tman5293. So is the Bifrost Uber really that much better? Looking at the specs between the two as far as DACs go, it looks like there isn't much of a difference, then again I am just learning this stuff that is why I am asking you guys who have more experience and knowledge in this. Will there be an audible difference justifiable to spend $419 or $519 for it? If so then I will take your advice and get it.

 

Thank you again for the replies, it is very much appreciated!

 

Let me start off first by saying whether it is worth it or not, is entirely up to you. 

 

I used to own the Titanium HD and ASUS Xonar STX (and rolled a bunch of opamps) before upgrading to the Schiit Bifrost, and then the Uber upgrade after. To my ears, the Bifrost was much more transparent, more detailed and cleaner sound compared to both the Titanium HD and Xonar STX. There is a 'blacker' background with the Bifrost (running through optical). Upgrading to Uber adds more micro detail and an even blacker background compared to the stock Bifrost, and the sound signature is closer to the Gungnir. I've sold my Titanium HD, but I still use my STX to output via coax to my Bifrost when I watch movies or play games for virtual surround.

 

Is worth the jump? Depends on if you're satisfied or not with what you have. The Titanium HD was very good already, but there is a noticeable improvement switching over to the Schiit gear. 

 

Hope that helps!

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