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post #14071 of 19427
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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post
 

So I have a couple of dilemmas now. 1.) Do I buy 2 matched 6N6P-IR power tubes for the Little Dot MK III, or do I hold out a couple of more weeks for Schiit's Vali while I try to decide on and save up for a hi-fi (not entry like the LD MK III) amp? 2.) What hi-fi amp am I going to get. Ah the life of an audiophile, haha. :)

 

From what I've read, the Vali's are quite a bit brighter than the Magni's. I suppose it comes down to what sort of sound you like -- colored or transparent. It'd be nice to have an official list, but from what I've gathered, a few of the colored amps that pair really well with the HD650's are:

 

Bottlehead Crack (+Speedball)

Burson HA-160

Woo WA2

 

It would be great, regardless of what amp you choose to get, if you could do an A/B comparison between un-amped HD650 and an amped HD650. I'm extremely curious whether any of these amps are worth the money for the HD650 in a blind-test.

post #14072 of 19427

Based on the early impressions, I'd say grab the Vali. Sell of the mkiii if needed.

 

gL!!

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I would rather save money and get the Crack cause tube rolling will allow you to tweak sound to your liking
post #14074 of 19427
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Originally Posted by Simanick View Post


It would be great, regardless of what amp you choose to get, if you could do an A/B comparison between un-amped HD650 and an amped HD650. I'm extremely curious whether any of these amps are worth the money for the HD650 in a blind-test.

I can do it. smily_headphones1.gif I'm considering just getting regular 6N6P power tubes (stock) and puting in the stock 5654 driver tubes, instead of my Sylvania Gold Brand 5654 tubes, and AB that against Vali or maybe Magni.

I'm currently DAC-less as well. That will be a Modi for sure.
post #14075 of 19427
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

I appreciate your thoughts and impressions here. Since soundstage seems to be the most substantial improvement, I'll likely pass on this one. SS just isn't high on my list. I love the intimate sound of the lyr and the ability to roll the tubes. 

 

I just recently tried the Amperex Orange Globes with the Lyr... I can definitely see why you love these Matt. Excellent extension for the bass and treble... the bass control is tight and textured... the trebles have shine without being harsh. But most impressively... there is a very very smooth and clean emotional depth to the timbre in the mid/midbass region. Makes some more intimate vocal and smooth jazz songs really sing... to a degree that I think I can safely say I prefer the more musical setup of Lyr and Orange Globes over my M/G stack (slightly more analytical) for those tracks :blink:.

 

However, don't discount the chance to listen to balanced if you can Matt... particularly if you have any larger orchestral pieces or recordings in a large hall. Anything with a larger sense of space... really takes on a different level of realism when the HD650s are balanced. TBH the M/G stack certainly isn't the best I heard for the HD650/600... as I again mention the rig I heard @ the Toronto meet ;)... that one was easily better than M/G... had the strengths of the soundstage and clean sound but definitely musical with emotion. But yea... really liking the orange globes right now :biggrin:


Edited by joebobbilly - 10/17/13 at 6:34pm
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Excellent description of the lyr with the OG's!! Couldn't have said it better myself. :biggrin: 

 

I have no doubt that the M/G would be and is outstanding with the 650 and many other hp's. I'm just prepared to make the leap to go all balanced just yet, but haven't ruled it out. 

 

Right now I'm getting all the sound stage I ever dreamed of with the mdr-ma900. It's a tremendously open and expansive sounding experience for a very reasonable price. Give it a look/listen...

 

I'm grateful to MLE to giving me the heads up on this one.

 

post #14077 of 19427
Whatever dac u get, get the darkvoice336se....high or low impedance,
This tube amp rocks my boat... tongue.gif
post #14078 of 19427
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Originally Posted by joebobbilly View Post
 

 

I just recently tried the Amperex Orange Globes with the Lyr... I can definitely see why you love these Matt. Excellent extension for the bass and treble... the bass control is tight and textured... the trebles have shine without being harsh. But most impressively... there is a very very smooth and clean emotional depth to the timbre in the mid/midbass region. Makes some more intimate vocal and smooth jazz songs really sing... to a degree that I think I can safely say I prefer the more musical setup of Lyr and Orange Globes over my M/G stack (slightly more analytical) for those tracks :blink:.

 

However, don't discount the chance to listen to balanced if you can Matt... particularly if you have any larger orchestral pieces or recordings in a large hall. Anything with a larger sense of space... really takes on a different level of realism when the HD650s are balanced. TBH the M/G stack certainly isn't the best I heard for the HD650/600... as I again mention the rig I heard @ the Toronto meet ;)... that one was easily better than M/G... had the strengths of the soundstage and clean sound but definitely musical with emotion. But yea... really liking the orange globes right now :biggrin:

 

LOL i was wondering when you were gonna tell Matt to go balanced again. I'm trying out joebobbilly's M/G stack right now (he's got my Uberfrost/Lyr/OGs), and yeah, balanced is quite nice for the sound stage, been going at more orchestral pieces after the swap. I totally agree with you (joebobbilly) with the jazz, I definitely enjoy the Uberfrost/Lyr more. The M/G just doesn't do it justice (relative to the Uber/Lyr, its still amazing in its own right).

 

I currently feed the M/G via optical (Jriver/WASAPI) for music, but for movies/games, I use my ASUS STX to create virtual surround and output to the Gungnir via coax... and wow, that is another immersive experience in itself. Virtual surround sound from a BALANCED setup for any FPS or movies, is amazing. But this is Head-Fi, so I'll stop there for now =)

 

You using the OGs O-frame or the A-frame? How do the Matsu 6922 compare as its burning in? 

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Okay having used the HD650 for a bit now I've noticed something surprising. THEY ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE MY HEAD TILL IT EXPLODES! Okay maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration on my part but holy schiit they are really tight. Now they are brand new and I have barely had them over 24 hours now, but dang that's some clamping force. I'm afraid to think of the Audeze or HiFiMAN lines compared to this. 

post #14080 of 19427
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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post
 

Okay having used the HD650 for a bit now I've noticed something surprising. THEY ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE MY HEAD TILL IT EXPLODES! Okay maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration on my part but holy schiit they are really tight. Now they are brand new and I have barely had them over 24 hours now, but dang that's some clamping force. I'm afraid to think of the Audeze or HiFiMAN lines compared to this. 

 

Mine were the same way for about the first week. Don't worry. They stretch out and loosen up. 

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Originally Posted by Anavel0 View Post
 

Okay having used the HD650 for a bit now I've noticed something surprising. THEY ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE MY HEAD TILL IT EXPLODES! Okay maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration on my part but holy schiit they are really tight. Now they are brand new and I have barely had them over 24 hours now, but dang that's some clamping force. I'm afraid to think of the Audeze or HiFiMAN lines compared to this. 

Haha they're like that at first, but trust me, the HD650 loosens up and is SUPER comfortable afterwards, its like it form fits to your head. My HD650 feels comfier than my friend's =P

 

But Audeze/Hifiman's issue isn't the clamping force, its the sheer weight (DOUBLE the HD650). I own the HE-500, and tried the LCD-2. I got neck strain for the first week, but after that, my neck got used to it. HE-500 giving my neck a workout =P

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Originally Posted by ngyu View Post
 

Haha they're like that at first, but trust me, the HD650 loosens up and is SUPER comfortable afterwards, its like it form fits to your head. My HD650 feels comfier than my friend's =P

 

But Audeze/Hifiman's issue isn't the clamping force, its the sheer weight (DOUBLE the HD650). I own the HE-500, and tried the LCD-2. I got neck strain for the first week, but after that, my neck got used to it. HE-500 giving my neck a workout =P

 

+1

post #14083 of 19427
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

Right now I'm getting all the sound stage I ever dreamed of with the mdr-ma900. It's a tremendously open and expansive sounding experience for a very reasonable price. Give it a look/listen...

 

 

Hadn't come across these before, but they look awfully tempting and super comfortable.  How do they stack up against the hd650's in terms of timbre?  

post #14084 of 19427

^^ The ma900 can not match the 650 in richness of the mids, natural timber and mid and sub bass. It's a step down for sure but not a huge one. If you can get get a good deal on the ma900 it's certainly worth owning both. 

post #14085 of 19427

I have to say, when I first got these headphones I was not fond of them. But the more I listen to them, the more I fall in love with the sound signature and the more I fall in love with my music again!

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