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post #13696 of 20014

Before going balanced on Mjolnir/Gungnir, I would have easily preferred the Annies 90% of the time over the HD650 for classical. However, once balanced... the soundstage change was incredible (could be Mjolnir too)... but ultimately for classical now the HD650 easily wins for any larger orchestral pieces just simply from the sheer soundstage and presence of the concert hall. However, smaller ensemble pieces or piano solos, I like the Annies more.

 

For acoustic guitars Annies more...

 

Nearly everything else.... HD650s (on Mojo/Gungnir it's just no contest for most songs compared to Annies on E09K/Gungnir)


Edited by joebobbilly - 9/22/13 at 8:40pm
post #13697 of 20014
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Originally Posted by gabsonuro View Post
 

are these any decent for rock?

 

I have them hooked up to a schiit bifrost uber/valhalla and listen to 80s metal and rock all the time.  It really depends on the rips and source material.  Sometimes the original source wasn't that great to begin with.  I'm not an audiophile, but I know that the combo I have is the best I've heard ever and see no reason for myself to buy something more expensive.  I did order a toxic cable that should help it sound even better.  

post #13698 of 20014
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Originally Posted by vegasf1 View Post

I have them hooked up to a schiit bifrost uber/valhalla and listen to 80s metal and rock all the time.  It really depends on the rips and source material.  Sometimes the original source wasn't that great to begin with.  I'm not an audiophile, but I know that the combo I have is the best I've heard ever and see no reason for myself to buy something more expensive.  I did order a toxic cable that should help it sound even better.  
Don't expect a big change with cables. When I bought my senns it came with 3 aftermarket cables. I could not hear any changes at all.
Edited by foreign - 9/23/13 at 4:10pm
post #13699 of 20014
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Don't expect a big change with cables. When I bought my senns it came with 3 aftermarket cables. I could not hear any changes at all.

 

Let's not go there in this thread.

 

@vegasf1 the HD650 with a Schiit stack can easily be considered endgame by the majority of the regular population... enjoy!!

post #13700 of 20014
In the absence of a Bottlehead Crack, I'm considering the Little Dot Mk3. I'm on an E7/E9 combo at the moment. Just wondering whether this would be a meaningful upgrade or if I should just bide my time and get the Crack?
post #13701 of 20014
I've been doing some sighted A/B comparisons with odac /O2 and HDVD800 using HD800 and 650s . I own both Amps and I really wanted the HDVD to be clearly better . My conclusion is they sound practically the same and any difference is so marginal I can't easily notice it. I do use the multi inputs on the HDVD800 so I use it over the O2/odac but for USB audio only you can't go wrong with the O2/odac.
post #13702 of 20014
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I've been doing some sighted A/B comparisons with odac /O2 and HDVD800 using HD800 and 650s . I own both Amps and I really wanted the HDVD to be clearly better . My conclusion is they sound practically the same and any difference is so marginal I can't easily notice it. I do use the multi inputs on the HDVD800 so I use it over the O2/odac but for USB audio only you can't go wrong with the O2/odac.

 

I liked the O2 for the HD-650 as well and should have kept it. Some say the O2 isn't enough for the HD-650 but that's nonsense IMO.

I think my two favorite budget amps for the HD-650 are the Micro Amp and O2. This is under $350. There's a good chance I might fail a blind test between those unless I loop some of my favorite tracks.

post #13703 of 20014
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post

I've been doing some sighted A/B comparisons with odac /O2 and HDVD800 using HD800 and 650s . I own both Amps and I really wanted the HDVD to be clearly better . My conclusion is they sound practically the same and any difference is so marginal I can't easily notice it. I do use the multi inputs on the HDVD800 so I use it over the O2/odac but for USB audio only you can't go wrong with the O2/odac.

 

Are you using Single ended for both? I could not imagine there being a small difference if you're using balanced.

post #13704 of 20014
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I liked the O2 for the HD-650 as well and should have kept it. Some say the O2 isn't enough for the HD-650 but that's nonsense IMO.

I think my two favorite budget amps for the HD-650 are the Micro Amp and O2. This is under $350. There's a good chance I might fail a blind test between those unless I loop some of my favorite tracks.

 

I agree.  When I compared my North Star 192 /  GS-1 rig to the North Star 192 / O2 rig I also felt I would fail a blind test. 

 

Regarding power, I rarely need more than a 9 o'clock volume setting on low gain with the O2.  It turned out to be a fantastic amp. 

 

The O2 may be budget in price but the sound is absolutely crystal clear, uncolored, high end.

post #13705 of 20014

single ended for both, not tried comparisons with balanced....... Yet. Not sure if i want to. My wallet might not like the result!

post #13706 of 20014
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Originally Posted by grrraymond View Post

In the absence of a Bottlehead Crack, I'm considering the Little Dot Mk3. I'm on an E7/E9 combo at the moment. Just wondering whether this would be a meaningful upgrade or if I should just bide my time and get the Crack?
The little dot mk3 is a nice amp, tube rolli g can get addictive and brings different sound improvements. However I've been happy with the little dot for its performance/price point. I am going to upgrade to a woo audio, I haven't heard the crack but good amps do pair well with the hd650's, apparently the crack does a fantastic job at driving the senns.
post #13707 of 20014
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post
 

single ended for both, not tried comparisons with balanced....... Yet. Not sure if i want to. My wallet might not like the result!

 

You already went HDVD800 and the HD800. How much more could 2 cables hurt? =P

 

Easiest way (if you're hardcore against getting a "better" cable)... just get a friend who's handy with soldering and reterminate the stock cables. XLR plugs are cheap.

 

EDIT: I doubt you'd regret it... bit of shame to not go balanced if you've paid the premium for a balanced amp/DAC

post #13708 of 20014

A full balanced system will give some benefits to the sound. Transitions between balanced and unbalanced on the other hand will outweigh any benefits. Just my 2c


Edited by muxamed - 9/24/13 at 9:41pm
post #13709 of 20014

Some days I marvel at the insane detail and neutrality of the HD 800, other days they just sound lifeless and boring. It's on those days that I pick up my 650s and remember why I fell in love with them in the first place. 

HD 650 = high school sweetheart
HD 800 = high maintenance trophy wife

post #13710 of 20014

Good thing I'm not ready to get married :tongue:

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