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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post

I'll plug BTG Audio again...

http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/~/product/category=2609076&id=11546463

http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/~/product/category=2609076&id=11559114

The first one is copper (which will need the 650 connectors added), and the second is SPC (and has the correct termination included in the price)

That's what I've been looking for, big thanks!

Only discouraging thing is that it's nearly $100 more to get a 'stock' cable length. Bleh.
post #12887 of 21429

having a good headfonecable connected to the hd650 could just be potentially "good"....

cos the choke/dirt point could be another stock cable further up the chain....rcas, usbs...

just test it out. paid huge dividends for me in terms of sound..tongue.gif

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Yeah, I'll remain to say I'm not going to overpay for a cable when I could potentially pay for a matching DAC for my setup that will most definitely make a difference (whether it's a negative or positive one).

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Originally Posted by pez View Post

Yeah, I'll remain to say I'm not going to overpay for a cable when I could potentially pay for a matching DAC for my setup that will most definitely make a difference (whether it's a negative or positive one).


Not always. A perfect example, I have Woo Audio WA7 DAC/Amp combo. I decided to try Micromega MyDAC, which uses transformer based power supply,if it will make any difference but it didn't except that, unlike WA7, it works with WASAPI's event mode.

post #12890 of 21429

tat harmless looking cable from the lappy to the dac can be the cause of great variance in the sound quality.

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

tat harmless looking cable from the lappy to the dac can be the cause of great variance in the sound quality.

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I think noticeable is more accurate word

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if noticeable is what u noticed thus far, try a CABLEDYNE  biggrin.gif

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It seems there is much variation in how much variation people find. 

What I'd learned long ago in terms of testing (in professional audio contexts as well) is that doing an experiment that can validly isolate differences is very hard, very detailed.  

 

So we are all doing different experiments.  No wonder the results differ.  

 

In other words, there is NOTHING WRONG GOING ON HERE. 


Edited by Stoney - 7/7/13 at 10:23pm
post #12894 of 21429

I just find it difficult to believe that a company like sennheiser with what was once its flagship headphone would build an amazing headphone and then compromise it with a bad cable, I may be wrong, but I think not.

post #12895 of 21429

its an ok cable..its not a superb cable...if u are not fussy, dun change it :P

its like alot of stock cars dun have great tyres, sports rim etc

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NVM

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Originally Posted by pez View Post

Yeah, I'll remain to say I'm not going to overpay for a cable when I could potentially pay for a matching DAC for my setup that will most definitely make a difference (whether it's a negative or positive one).

 

Buying an aftermarket cable for your HD650 is IMO like throwing your money down the toilet. You can surely invest your money in something else. I once bought a Cardas Cable ($200) for my HD650. Not only that it didn't bring any noticable change to the sound, the cable was also a real pain in the ass to use. While it looks ok and hi-tech it is incredibly stiff which makes it very uncomfortable. One of the channels frequently went out and only came back after I plugged it out of my headphone amp and then plugged it back again. That was very annoying. The stock cable works like a charm, it is very flexible, well built and is cheap if you ever need to replace it. 


Edited by muxamed - 7/8/13 at 1:19am
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

I just find it difficult to believe that a company like sennheiser with what was once its flagship headphone would build an amazing headphone and then compromise it with a bad cable, I may be wrong, but I think not.

 

Another way to look at it is that Sennheiser makes cables detachable in order to upgrade them easily.


I once felt the same way you did until doing blind tests with a friend and can vouch for a significant improvement with a cable upgrade. Even the Cardas was an improvement and I used it for quite some time until balancing the 650s. Once balanced I started using a Silver Poison by Toxic cables. This produced even better SQ to my ears but to be fair, I didn't balance the Cardas. I think the silver/gold of the Poison brightens things up without detracting from the bass response like some pure silver cables can.

 

I believe it's important to have an excellent source/amp to benefit from a cable upgrade. Also, I buy aftermarket cables used, usually for less than half the original cost.


Edited by Hellenback - 7/8/13 at 2:17am
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Originally Posted by Hellenback View Post

 

 

I believe it's important to have an excellent source/amp to benefit from a cable upgrade. Also, I buy aftermarket cables used, usually for less than half the original cost.

 

And what in your opinion is an excellent source/Amp? At the time I had a Cardas cable I used Rega Apollo CD-player as a source and Musical Fidelity X-Can V3 headphone amplifier. I see those as excellent source/amp combilation, equal or better than those you have on your equipment list. Unfortunately it didn't bring any difference to my ear or to the ears of the people who listened to the same equipment with me. 

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Originally Posted by Hellenback View Post

 

Another way to look at it is that Sennheiser makes cables detachable in order to upgrade them easily.

 

 

Well no, they make detachable cables so that you can replace them if they break, Sennheiser obviously want you to buy their cable from their spares website.

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