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post #12826 of 19501
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Originally Posted by aamefford

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I thought the romantic sound was the veil...

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44

Is it?
I think at this point the veil is whatever one wants it to be, but for me, yeah, I think it is...
Interesting.

Note - I don't find them veiled unless seriously under driven, like from an iPod. I can sure see how someone who likes a brighter, more forward signature might find them so. They are a great fit for me.
post #12827 of 19501
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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

 

I haven't been able to listen to a 'black screen' HD650 yet, ........I'd try the de-foam mod on the baffle side of the driver but I'm reluctant as there's no easy way to reverse it.

 

i tried it, aint good to my ears....lost the itimacy. 

 

maybe with the introduction of higher resolution music, music softwares like audivana/media center...the veil got lifted...?

i definitely was bothered by the "veil" long time ago..zzz

post #12828 of 19501

I don't know about you guys. I just in no way can justify going in and doing extensive mods on a $500 headphone. Some of that stuff is real hard to undo once you have done it, not to mention what it is going to do to the resale value if you ever decide to sell them.

post #12829 of 19501

resale value goes up...cos its been UNveiled....deadhorse.gifdeadhorse.gifdeadhorse.gif

 

 

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for guys new to this endgame can, try this simple experiment...see if u like the change in soundstage. 

just doublesidetape some foamstrips u can find..n test it out.


Edited by Lorspeaker - 7/6/13 at 1:20am
post #12830 of 19501

I found another instrument that sounds amazing on the HD650.  Yesterday I was listening to the White Stripes, when the song "The Nurse" came on.  The xylophones sounded absolutely fantastic!!!  Who would have thought...cool.gif

post #12831 of 19501

There is no veil on HD650. I am comparing to headphones like Beyer DT660, AKG k501 and AKG k701.

post #12832 of 19501

They are good for the price..and i would never call it veiled...unless comparing (ab-ing) them with others like T1 or HD800. I am quite happy with the sound of my HD650. Using silver cable will do a bit improvement in clarity (but reduce a bit of its warmth).

post #12833 of 19501
While I have no problem with anyone who does mods, sometimes I wonder how the people who put thousands of man hours into designing every millimeter of every curve, every angle, and every piece of foam would feel about it smily_headphones1.gif
post #12834 of 19501
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Originally Posted by radiojam View Post

While I have no problem with anyone who does mods, sometimes I wonder how the people who put thousands of man hours into designing every millimeter of every curve, every angle, and every piece of foam would feel about it smily_headphones1.gif

They would probably say..... "only in HeadFi......oooonly in HeadFi !! biggrin.gif

post #12835 of 19501

I don't have a problem with people who do mods...I just don't understand it. If somebody wants to ruin their $500 pair of headphones be my guest. If I really didn't like the sound so much that I felt the need to do some serious modifications, I would be looking for a completely different headphone instead. Like tube rollers though, a lot of people in this hobby love to tinker and they just can't keep their hands out of the equipment. I used to be the same way but I learned better regular_smile%20.gif

post #12836 of 19501
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

I don't have a problem with people who do mods...I just don't understand it. If somebody wants to ruin their $500 pair of headphones be my guest. If I really didn't like the sound so much that I felt the need to do some serious modifications, I would be looking for a completely different headphone instead. Like tube rollers though, a lot of people in this hobby love to tinker and they just can't keep their hands out of the equipment. I used to be the same way but I learned better regular_smile%20.gif

I am agree with you beerchug.gif

post #12837 of 19501
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

I don't have a problem with people who do mods...I just don't understand it. If somebody wants to ruin their $500 pair of headphones be my guest. If I really didn't like the sound so much that I felt the need to do some serious modifications, I would be looking for a completely different headphone instead. Like tube rollers though, a lot of people in this hobby love to tinker and they just can't keep their hands out of the equipment. I used to be the same way but I learned better regular_smile%20.gif

I'm with you on this, with one exception - without modding, my favorite pair of headphones would not have been born.  The Mr. Speakers Mad Dog is an extensively modded Fostex T50RP.  A great headphone that serves as an excellent closed compliment to the HD650.

post #12838 of 19501
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post

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Originally Posted by aamefford

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Originally Posted by aamefford

I thought the romantic sound was the veil...

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44

Is it?
I think at this point the veil is whatever one wants it to be, but for me, yeah, I think it is...
Interesting.

Note - I don't find them veiled unless seriously under driven, like from an iPod. I can sure see how someone who likes a brighter, more forward signature might find them so. They are a great fit for me.

I have heard the veil is lifted once better amplification is put in place. Thus, I guess you could null my opinions, since I am only using a O2/ODAC.

post #12839 of 19501

I've always thought the "veil" was just the sign of poor amplification.  The HD650 doesn't need the most power, but it does need good power...

post #12840 of 19501

BALANCED CABLE ADVICE? 

 

I would like to build balanced headphone cables, primarily for RSA portable use... so hoping to avoid bulky full-sized XLRs that otherwise might be further adapted to a short RSA cable. Instead, I might add a mini XLR adapter to make it flexible for use on other amps?  In other words....

 

For balanced, I first thought I could ask Cardas to build it, and terminate with a male version of the "RSA" version of the Kobiconn connector.

But that makes it a single-amp cable, because I cannot find a female on-cable version of the Kobiconn. 

 

So, I either accept it as a single-amp cable, or I insert a small adapter. My preference is the mini XLR.  

 

Here are my ideas: Terminate with a mini XLR male on the headphone cable, and then use multiple adapters, one to RSA male, and for desktop amps, I could adapt to XLR male (a single 4-pin, or two 3-pins).


Main "universal" cable:

HD650 -- Cardas Clear Light -- mini 4pin XLR male

Adapters:
Mini 4pin XLR Female -- RSA 4 pin male (for the RSA SR-71B Blackbird... use it almost all the time)
Mini 4pin XLR Female -- two male XLR 3 pin (full sized) For future home amp
Mini 4pin XLR Female -- single male XLR 4 pin (full sized) For future home amp

Any comments, or pin diagrams, would help. I have trouble identifying on male and female which pin is "1" and whether numbering goes clockwise or CCW. 
 


Edited by Stoney - 7/6/13 at 12:41pm
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