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post #12526 of 19459

Take all of those 3 weeks and report back after. I don't know if this is burn-in or just time to get used to the sound, but it took me quite of lot of hours before really understanding what those cans are all about.

post #12527 of 19459
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Originally Posted by teknikk7 View Post

 

I have the same setup almost.  I am using a WA6 with a VDAC II.  My HD650 sound amazing after break-in and many countless hours of rolling tubes.  What driver and rectifier are you using???  How many hours are on the HP?

 

Gotta remember the whole closed back versus open back thing.  With that being said I don't feel the need to move to closed back because I am very satisfied with what the HD650 are doing.  My music tastes are hip hop, rap, rock and metal.

 

Also, is the amp new?  How many hours do you have on your tubes?

Less than 20 hours on the cans, amp is new, stock tubes/rectifier, about 100 hours on those. I've demoed plenty of closed and open cans and prefer open.

post #12528 of 19459

Yea... 20 hours isn't quite enough if they're new IMHO. They're like a girlfriend, give them time (and expensive stuff to match)... and they will reward you biggrin.gif
 

EDIT: Yes... Matt is right though... the changes are not huge, but for some it might be enough to add that "ohhhh niceeeee" factor. I know it did for me beerchug.gif


Edited by joebobbilly - 6/11/13 at 1:14pm
post #12529 of 19459

While I would agree that these do undergo a nice "break-in" change, I wouldn't rely on it to make them magically transform into your favorite cans. I really liked them at hour one and then I was pleasantly pleased with the changed after 150 hours or so. 

post #12530 of 19459
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Originally Posted by wilcaz View Post

Less than 20 hours on the cans, amp is new, stock tubes/rectifier, about 100 hours on those. I've demoed plenty of closed and open cans and prefer open.

 

Just as I imagined, I defiantly know what the problem is now.  If I had to use the WA6 stock I would sell it.  The stock Shu Guang is thin and a bit harsh.  The 6DE7 are just okay.  Also factoring in pre-break-in on the cans, yes your experience is exactly what I went through.  Not to worry, with a little bit of cash and some patience you will have a completely different setup from what you are hearing if you decide to take a leap and keep your setup, with some slight modifications of course. 

 

First off, the stock rectifier is garbage.  Opt for a UE596, Sophia Electric 274b, Mullard GZ34 or even a vintage NOS 274b like the Sylvania or RCA (1940-1950ish).  For around $60 it would be a good upgrade.  Obviously the first three mentioned are better but if your on a budget the last should suffice.  Also, opt for new driver tubes, I went with 6SN7 because they sounded full and offered very punchy bass which I like. Again, NOS sylvania are a great bang for your buck at around maybe $60-$80 with adapters. Some people like 6GL7, there are a number of driver tubes to choose from.

 

Give the new tubes time to break in, as well as the HD650.  I have slight adjustments on the EQ which dialed everything in, this will help you achieve that sweet spot.  Also, make sure your source is top notch and everything is configured correctly (clipping, bit rate etc).

 

It's going to take some work but it will take your listening to a whole new level.  I consider myself a bit of a basshead and I would never part with my HD650 or my beloved Woo.

 

 

Good luck!

post #12531 of 19459

^^ This is good advice. wink.gif

post #12532 of 19459
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Originally Posted by teknikk7 View Post

 

Just as I imagined, I defiantly know what the problem is now.  If I had to use the WA6 stock I would sell it.  The stock Shu Guang is thin and a bit harsh.  The 6DE7 are just okay.  Also factoring in pre-break-in on the cans, yes your experience is exactly what I went through.  Not to worry, with a little bit of cash and some patience you will have a completely different setup from what you are hearing if you decide to take a leap and keep your setup, with some slight modifications of course. 

 

First off, the stock rectifier is garbage.  Opt for a UE596, Sophia Electric 274b, Mullard GZ34 or even a vintage NOS 274b like the Sylvania or RCA (1940-1950ish).  For around $60 it would be a good upgrade.  Obviously the first three mentioned are better but if your on a budget the last should suffice.  Also, opt for new driver tubes, I went with 6SN7 because they sounded full and offered very punchy bass which I like. Again, NOS sylvania are a great bang for your buck at around maybe $60-$80 with adapters. Some people like 6GL7, there are a number of driver tubes to choose from.

 

Give the new tubes time to break in, as well as the HD650.  I have slight adjustments on the EQ which dialed everything in, this will help you achieve that sweet spot.  Also, make sure your source is top notch and everything is configured correctly (clipping, bit rate etc).

 

It's going to take some work but it will take your listening to a whole new level.  I consider myself a bit of a basshead and I would never part with my HD650 or my beloved Woo.

 

 

Good luck!

I understand the stock WA6 tubes aren't supposed to be that great, but I had the opportunity to buy the unit less than 2 weeks used for a good price so I took the stock tubes. I also wanted to see how much I enjoyed the stock configuration before blowing a couple hundred on new tubes. 

 

Listening to the new Sigur Ros record right now and I'm really loving the sound, so we'll see. I appreciate your advice a lot.

post #12533 of 19459

listening to the new stephen wilson album - the raven refused to sing through WA2/HD650. a spectacular combination. some people say it's too dark but i think its perfect with rock. 

 

i wonder what the album will sound like next week when i get the T1's? going from dark to bright should be interesting!

post #12534 of 19459

Beyer Teslas love tubes....

post #12535 of 19459
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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post

Beyer Teslas love tubes....

so i hear! i cannot wait for the t1 now.

post #12536 of 19459
Hi,
I've been looking for HD650 sellers in European Union that could ship to Lithuania. Found Dolphin Audio selling them for a nice price but unfortunately they couldn't get them for me. So could you recommend some e-shops that sell these headphones for under ~380Eur shipped or that are known for great prices? Thanks a bunch.
post #12537 of 19459
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Originally Posted by eimis View Post

Hi,
I've been looking for HD650 sellers in European Union that could ship to Lithuania. Found Dolphin Audio selling them for a nice price but unfortunately they couldn't get them for me. So could you recommend some e-shops that sell these headphones for under ~380Eur shipped or that are known for great prices? Thanks a bunch.


Razordog deals... usually you can get a very very solid price from him. Email him for a price quote and let him know you're a head-fier. He gives fair discounts to members of Head-Fi.

post #12538 of 19459
Isn't Razordog USA?
Anyway, I decided to buy a used unit.
thanks
post #12539 of 19459
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

listening to the new stephen wilson album - the raven refused to sing through WA2/HD650. a spectacular combination. some people say it's too dark but i think its perfect with rock. 

 

 

+1, Awesome album! smily_headphones1.gif

post #12540 of 19459
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Originally Posted by Bruciebonus1982 View Post

I'm undecided between the HD650s and Grado SR325is, but this discussion might have pushed me to the former. Heard the mids and highs are more precise with Sennheiser but Grado has a warmer bass, which suits my music tastes. I'm a bit of a newbie but want to step up from my  Sennheiser HD 558s. Will be worth shelling out as a decent cans will last decades (or, so I hope).

 


I don't know, have you compared the FR? It does not tell the whole story but i think it will give you an idea how the balance of each sounds in comparison to each other.

 

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