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post #11866 of 19545
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Originally Posted by xphynance View Post

some head-fiers claim that csp2+ is the best amp under 1k that pairedfor hd650/hd800, I have yet heard it, so curious is there any argument for this?

 

if not, I will pull the trigger for csp2+ and start hunting for a dac after I get the ampbeyersmile.png

 

Don't have personal experience with csp2+ but, by my information collected on internet you should be right. Thing to consider is ... that Lyr should be pretty close to csp2+ in terms of performance and it's much cheaper so ....

post #11867 of 19545
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

 

Don't have personal experience with csp2+ but, by my information collected on internet you should be right. Thing to consider is ... that Lyr should be pretty close to csp2+ in terms of performance and it's much cheaper so ....


ya, I have yet heard the Lyr, how it perform compared to the HDP?

 

damn, I should find a chance to try all of the different amps....evil_smiley.gif

post #11868 of 19545
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Originally Posted by xphynance View Post


ya, I have yet heard the Lyr, how it perform compared to the HDP?

 

damn, I should find a chance to try all of the different amps....evil_smiley.gif

 

HDP ?

post #11869 of 19545
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Originally Posted by xphynance View Post

some head-fiers claim that csp2+ is the best amp under 1k that pairedfor hd650/hd800, I have yet heard it, so curious is there any argument for this?

 

if not, I will pull the trigger for csp2+ and start hunting for a dac after I get the ampbeyersmile.png

 

Here is the CSP2+ and HD650's using the Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2 and the Cambridge DacMagic Plus as source from the MacBook Pro.

 

No complaints with the Cambridge at $599...The W4S DAC-2 is a definite upgrade at $1499....The CSP2+ and HD650's are a fantastic combo.

 

 

 

FYI, the Headphone jack in the front is an option. The default is on top of the white plate near the back corner.

post #11870 of 19545

Very nice looking set up.

post #11871 of 19545
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by xphynance View Post

some head-fiers claim that csp2+ is the best amp under 1k that pairedfor hd650/hd800, I have yet heard it, so curious is there any argument for this?

 

if not, I will pull the trigger for csp2+ and start hunting for a dac after I get the ampbeyersmile.png

 

Here is the CSP2+ and HD650's using the Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2 and the Cambridge DacMagic Plus as source from the MacBook Pro.

 

No complaints with the Cambridge at $599...The W4S DAC-2 is a definite upgrade at $1499....The CSP2+ and HD650's are a fantastic combo.

 

 

 

FYI, the Headphone jack in the front is an option. The default is on top of the white plate near the back corner.

Decware CSP2+, Bottlehead Crack, or a Glenn OTL.. Not sure.. 

post #11872 of 19545

Every time I listen to my Meridian DAC with the heavily internally modified 339+HD650, I suddenly feel I don't need to upgrade my headphone nor my amp nor anything (except maybe the tubes! Even then I'm pretty much set with my tube collection). I don't even care for a custom cable, except for the fancy plug and custom length biggrin.gif

 

 

post #11873 of 19545
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Originally Posted by telecaster View Post

Every time I listen to my Meridian DAC with the heavily internally modified 339+HD650, I suddenly feel I don't need to upgrade my headphone nor my amp nor anything (except maybe the tubes! Even then I'm pretty much set with my tube collection). I don't even care for a custom cable, except for the fancy plug and custom length biggrin.gif

 

 

Hehehe. Just waitwink.gif

post #11874 of 19545
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I've heard both and prefer the lyr by far. Because the 650 scales so well and seems to love power, the lyr just makes the best choice to my ears. This can easily be an end game setup. biggrin.gif

You know...I've read a lot of people dig the HD650 on the Lyr. If it really is a power thing, I'd be curious to hear more impressions of the HD650 on a speaker amp. Something along these lines:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/he-500-lcd2-d5000-dt770-sr80-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/240#post_8907439

 

For the Emotiva ($219), a balanced cable, and an adapter for speaker taps, you could achieve a setup that costs less than the Lyr. It'd be interesting to know how the Lyr compares to the Emotiva setup with the HD650. It's already been stated by some that they prefer the Emotiva to the Lyr with their Hifimans...but maybe planars really are just a different ball game?

post #11875 of 19545

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

post #11876 of 19545
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Originally Posted by gregr507 View Post

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

 

1. Do you have any DIY skill?  If not, then the price is no longer really in the Crack's favor.  

 

2. Do you think you might pick up any orthos in the future?  If so, and you don't want to have to upgrade your amp again in the future, then the Lyr is the better choice.

 

If you've already got a soldering iron and are interested in DIY projects, then the Crack is a great buy.

post #11877 of 19545
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

You know...I've read a lot of people dig the HD650 on the Lyr. If it really is a power thing, I'd be curious to hear more impressions of the HD650 on a speaker amp. Something along these lines:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/he-500-lcd2-d5000-dt770-sr80-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/240#post_8907439

 

For the Emotiva ($219), a balanced cable, and an adapter for speaker taps, you could achieve a setup that costs less than the Lyr. It'd be interesting to know how the Lyr compares to the Emotiva setup with the HD650. It's already been stated by some that they prefer the Emotiva to the Lyr with their Hifimans...but maybe planars really are just a different ball game?

 

For me, the lyr is all I'd ever want. I did experiment with the hd650 and a few vintage receivers with a headphone output stage that was meant for orthos and hard to drive phones. What I found is that there was not much room for adjustment with the 650 on those receivers/amps. I could only go from about 7-8 on the dial before it got to medium loud. Plus the lyr has better dynamics and sounds more musical overall. 

post #11878 of 19545

I have been eyeing the HD650s for a while because it is in my comfort zone for my budget and I like its open, airy, dark and warm sound signature quite a bit.

I love everything abt it, except that it sometimes can't have enough oomph for my electronic music. Is there any ways to solve my problem or should I look at 

other cans? I auditioned it with this setup: iMac>Naim Dac>RSA Darkstar>HD650 (Unbalanced). 

 

Btw, I dun like to EQ my cans. 

 

What I would most likely pair it with is either 4S>CLAS>Pico Power or PC>USB DAC>Asgard 2/Graham Slee Novo or 4S/PC>iFi iDac> iFi iCan.

 

Thanks in advance for any input!

post #11879 of 19545
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Originally Posted by gregr507 View Post

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

 

If you get Lyr you won't be disappointed + there is huge number of tubes to roll in and great Lyr tube rolling thread :)

 

I find Lyr to work with wide variety of headphones, looks like even Beyer Tesla 1 sounds amazing with right tubes ;) (from my experience)

 

Also as you said ... it looks cool. Definitely a factor for me.

post #11880 of 19545
The HD650 is a special headphone to me. Even though I've got an HE-500, I'm keeping my HD650s. Dat sound!
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