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post #11866 of 24309
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Originally Posted by xphynance View Post

some head-fiers claim that csp2+ is the best amp under 1k that pairedfor hd650/hd800, I have yet heard it, so curious is there any argument for this?

 

if not, I will pull the trigger for csp2+ and start hunting for a dac after I get the ampbeyersmile.png

 

Here is the CSP2+ and HD650's using the Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2 and the Cambridge DacMagic Plus as source from the MacBook Pro.

 

No complaints with the Cambridge at $599...The W4S DAC-2 is a definite upgrade at $1499....The CSP2+ and HD650's are a fantastic combo.

 

 

 

FYI, the Headphone jack in the front is an option. The default is on top of the white plate near the back corner.

post #11867 of 24309

Very nice looking set up.

post #11868 of 24309
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by xphynance View Post

some head-fiers claim that csp2+ is the best amp under 1k that pairedfor hd650/hd800, I have yet heard it, so curious is there any argument for this?

 

if not, I will pull the trigger for csp2+ and start hunting for a dac after I get the ampbeyersmile.png

 

Here is the CSP2+ and HD650's using the Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2 and the Cambridge DacMagic Plus as source from the MacBook Pro.

 

No complaints with the Cambridge at $599...The W4S DAC-2 is a definite upgrade at $1499....The CSP2+ and HD650's are a fantastic combo.

 

 

 

FYI, the Headphone jack in the front is an option. The default is on top of the white plate near the back corner.

Decware CSP2+, Bottlehead Crack, or a Glenn OTL.. Not sure.. 

post #11869 of 24309

Every time I listen to my Meridian DAC with the heavily internally modified 339+HD650, I suddenly feel I don't need to upgrade my headphone nor my amp nor anything (except maybe the tubes! Even then I'm pretty much set with my tube collection). I don't even care for a custom cable, except for the fancy plug and custom length biggrin.gif

 

 

post #11870 of 24309
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Originally Posted by telecaster View Post

Every time I listen to my Meridian DAC with the heavily internally modified 339+HD650, I suddenly feel I don't need to upgrade my headphone nor my amp nor anything (except maybe the tubes! Even then I'm pretty much set with my tube collection). I don't even care for a custom cable, except for the fancy plug and custom length biggrin.gif

 

 

Hehehe. Just waitwink.gif

post #11871 of 24309
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I've heard both and prefer the lyr by far. Because the 650 scales so well and seems to love power, the lyr just makes the best choice to my ears. This can easily be an end game setup. biggrin.gif

You know...I've read a lot of people dig the HD650 on the Lyr. If it really is a power thing, I'd be curious to hear more impressions of the HD650 on a speaker amp. Something along these lines:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/he-500-lcd2-d5000-dt770-sr80-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/240#post_8907439

 

For the Emotiva ($219), a balanced cable, and an adapter for speaker taps, you could achieve a setup that costs less than the Lyr. It'd be interesting to know how the Lyr compares to the Emotiva setup with the HD650. It's already been stated by some that they prefer the Emotiva to the Lyr with their Hifimans...but maybe planars really are just a different ball game?

post #11872 of 24309

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

post #11873 of 24309
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Originally Posted by gregr507 View Post

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

 

1. Do you have any DIY skill?  If not, then the price is no longer really in the Crack's favor.  

 

2. Do you think you might pick up any orthos in the future?  If so, and you don't want to have to upgrade your amp again in the future, then the Lyr is the better choice.

 

If you've already got a soldering iron and are interested in DIY projects, then the Crack is a great buy.

post #11874 of 24309
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

You know...I've read a lot of people dig the HD650 on the Lyr. If it really is a power thing, I'd be curious to hear more impressions of the HD650 on a speaker amp. Something along these lines:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/he-500-lcd2-d5000-dt770-sr80-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/240#post_8907439

 

For the Emotiva ($219), a balanced cable, and an adapter for speaker taps, you could achieve a setup that costs less than the Lyr. It'd be interesting to know how the Lyr compares to the Emotiva setup with the HD650. It's already been stated by some that they prefer the Emotiva to the Lyr with their Hifimans...but maybe planars really are just a different ball game?

 

For me, the lyr is all I'd ever want. I did experiment with the hd650 and a few vintage receivers with a headphone output stage that was meant for orthos and hard to drive phones. What I found is that there was not much room for adjustment with the 650 on those receivers/amps. I could only go from about 7-8 on the dial before it got to medium loud. Plus the lyr has better dynamics and sounds more musical overall. 

post #11875 of 24309

I have been eyeing the HD650s for a while because it is in my comfort zone for my budget and I like its open, airy, dark and warm sound signature quite a bit.

I love everything abt it, except that it sometimes can't have enough oomph for my electronic music. Is there any ways to solve my problem or should I look at 

other cans? I auditioned it with this setup: iMac>Naim Dac>RSA Darkstar>HD650 (Unbalanced). 

 

Btw, I dun like to EQ my cans. 

 

What I would most likely pair it with is either 4S>CLAS>Pico Power or PC>USB DAC>Asgard 2/Graham Slee Novo or 4S/PC>iFi iDac> iFi iCan.

 

Thanks in advance for any input!

post #11876 of 24309
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Originally Posted by gregr507 View Post

Hey everyone, I had a question about amps to go with my 650's. I've had the 650's for a little while now, and I love them. I think they were worth every penny. I've been driving them with the e7/e9 combo, and while I really enjoy the sound, I feel like I'm not letting my 650's live up to their full potential. SO, I have decided to get a new amp.

 

I have it narrowed down to 2:

 

- Bottlehead Crack

or

-Lyr

 

I'm stongly leaning towards the crack because it's much cheaper (270) than the lyr (450). And many people rave about how it is the perfect compliment to the 650. And the building it myself seems fun. However, it's ugly as hell and many people say the lyr pairs very well with the 650 as well. Plus I worry that the crack won't be as good for future headphones down the line, as I've heard it doesn't pair up well with a lot of other cans (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure where I heard this). As for the crack's uglyness, I don't actually care that much about it. The lyr just looks so much cooler lol.

 

Sooooo basically, which would you pick between the 2? taking price into consideration as well

 

Thanks!

 

If you get Lyr you won't be disappointed + there is huge number of tubes to roll in and great Lyr tube rolling thread :)

 

I find Lyr to work with wide variety of headphones, looks like even Beyer Tesla 1 sounds amazing with right tubes ;) (from my experience)

 

Also as you said ... it looks cool. Definitely a factor for me.

post #11877 of 24309
The HD650 is a special headphone to me. Even though I've got an HE-500, I'm keeping my HD650s. Dat sound!
post #11878 of 24309
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

For me, the lyr is all I'd ever want. I did experiment with the hd650 and a few vintage receivers with a headphone output stage that was meant for orthos and hard to drive phones. What I found is that there was not much room for adjustment with the 650 on those receivers/amps. I could only go from about 7-8 on the dial before it got to medium loud. Plus the lyr has better dynamics and sounds more musical overall. 

Hm, well I might just compare the Lyr and the Emotiva for myself! And here's why.

 

Today was my first HeadFi meet! It was an absolute blast, and I look forward to the next one! I got to hear a lot of great headphones and great gear, and I will just say that there were a couple big standouts for me. The first big standout was the Denon D2000 and D5000. I had never heard the Denons before, so I wasn't sure if I'd like their presentation based on what I had read about them. But, holy smokes these are great sounding headphones! And so fun! That bass presentation...wow. It digs deep and has a touch of reverb to it - which I had read about and assumed I wouldn't like. Well I was wrong. That bass is just delicious, and I found the overall tonal balance to be engaging and just absolutely up my alley. And that soundstage! Quite unexpected, the shape, spaciousness, and depth. For a closed back headphone..."wow" is all I could say.

 

The other standout? You probably guessed it, the HD650! I have only heard the HD518, HD598, and HD600 until today. And on all of them I heard the ignominious "veil". They have just lacked a true sense of transparency to my ears, and I just didn't get Sennheisers. Well, I can officially say that I am a Sennheiser believer now, after hearing the HD650 on the Lyr! Wow! Everything I had read about this headphone but not quite believed turned out to be true. It is natural sounding. It does have drop-dead amazing mids. It does not sound veiled. It is a forgiving and easy listen, but without sounding boring! - This especially was a surprise. I had until today believed that a smooth sounding headphone could not also be engaging. Well, the HD650 pulls both off, somehow. And, for me this was very important, the bass slam was great! This headphone manages to be a forgiving, easy listen while having the slam and dynamics to engage on even the aggressive rock and metal I love! I don't even know what to say about that - it's something I have not experienced in any other headphone.

 

I even got to A/B with the HE-500 briefly (on the Lyr), a headphone that I have more familiarity and experience with. And...well, the HD650 honestly sounds more natural. Am I the only one who thinks planars have a strange soundstage presentation? The HD650's soundstage presentation is great! And the mids? Yeah, no comparison for me. The HD650's mids presentation was much more natural, engaging, and enjoyable than the HE-500's. Now I still appreciate the HE-500 for the many things it does so well! But...the HD650, wow. I am seriously considering getting this headphone.

 

So yeah, I may be joining the ranks in the near future, HD650 owners! I understand now, forgive me it took this long!


Edited by Biscuitz - 4/20/13 at 5:37pm
post #11879 of 24309

It's OK Biscuitz, Just glad to have another member of the family. :-)

post #11880 of 24309
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

 

I even got to A/B with the HE-500 briefly (on the Lyr), a headphone that I have more familiarity and experience with. And...well, the HD650 honestly sounds more natural. Am I the only one who thinks planars have a strange soundstage presentation? The HD650's soundstage presentation is great! And the mids? Yeah, no comparison for me. The HD650's mids presentation was much more natural, engaging, and enjoyable than the HE-500's. Now I still appreciate the HE-500 for the many things it does so well! But...the HD650, wow. I am seriously considering getting this headphone.

 

So yeah, I may be joining the ranks in the near future, HD650 owners! I understand now, forgive me it took this long!

 

Shush!!!

 

Don't say that too loud. They'll hear you...

 

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