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post #11161 of 19162
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post

I think it is just nuts giving 300 dollars for a headphone cable, especially if the headphone itself costs 400 bucks. Just my 2c

Yes I agree with this. Even though I find cables to help, $300 is madness. Especially if someone invests in those cables to fix a headphone sound signature  they don't like.  I do believe that they can be worth it but only if you can find a good deal off the FS section. I've seen some good deals where cables are down to 1/3 the original price (even lower once in a while).   

post #11162 of 19162
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Originally Posted by joebobbilly View Post

So Matt, if you're still following this thread... =P  Which one won?  HE 4? or HD 650?

 

I can't answer directly for Matt.  However, he does have the HifiMAN HE-4 for sale in the F/S section.  

post #11163 of 19162

lol ^ those hd650 mids never fail :P 

post #11164 of 19162

The 650 won out...sold the he4 today actually. It was a tough call. The he4 is an outstanding hp and just has so many good things going for it. The lighter weight than other HFM cans, slick paint job, upgraded cable and the wonderfully balanced ortho sound. It's a shame that they are discontinued because to me they are an improved version of the he400. The negative is that the he4 is not as easy to amp as the he400. I'll certainly miss it and was getting ready to pull the plug on the sale today and just keep it...and then it sold. 

post #11165 of 19162

but Matt, the ortho bass!

 

the ortho baaaaaaassssssss

post #11166 of 19162

Sure, I hear ya. I still like bass. Just not in the same way that I used to. It's all the about the mids for me these day. 

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Yep, I could never give up all the bass. Thats why my 650's are for the less bassy music I listen to. If I want bass, I reach for my Denon D5000's!

post #11168 of 19162
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Listening HD650 with BCL, lowest gain.  Female vocal music simply fan-tas-tic on BCL, treble is clean and smooth as crystal.

I forgot how low gain on BCL sound as I mostly use mid gain, but today, out of curiousity I switch to low gain, the clarity, liquidness and smoothness is really stunning.  Wind instruments like flute sounds very emotional and exciting .........

Ok, now back to music ........

 

always had mine on mid gain too....ok let me switch to loooooooooooooooooooooooo gain.
post #11169 of 19162
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

The 650 won out...sold the he4 today actually. It was a tough call. The he4 is an outstanding hp and just has so many good things going for it. The lighter weight than other HFM cans, slick paint job, upgraded cable and the wonderfully balanced ortho sound. It's a shame that they are discontinued because to me they are an improved version of the he400. The negative is that the he4 is not as easy to amp as the he400. I'll certainly miss it and was getting ready to pull the plug on the sale today and just keep it...and then it sold. 

 

Must have been fate Matt. wink.gif

post #11170 of 19162

Another score for HD 650s!!
 

post #11171 of 19162
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Originally Posted by IcedTea View Post

but Matt, the ortho bass!

 

the ortho baaaaaaassssssss


The bass is only 2-3 percent of the total audible spectrum. Why should we base our headphone purchase on that?

post #11172 of 19162
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post


The bass is only 2-3 percent of the total audible spectrum. Why should we base our headphone purchase on that?

best post yet. LOL 

post #11173 of 19162

Have any of you tried any really cheap DACs with the HD-650?

I've got the X-Fi Pro Go ($35) and it's pretty impressive with the HD-650. Don't ask me how or why. I'm sending it to my Magni or Micro Amp.

It will be nice if you're poor and want to get an expensive amp before a fancy DAC normal_smile%20.gif

 

The only difference between it and my ODAC is that it's slightly more muffled (like 1-3% biggrin.gif). Not as crystal clear. Level of detail seems a bit lower. It sounds warmer, but at the same time somewhat more musical. The ODAC makes some music sound much worse because it's so revealing of the crap in my collection. I even got the HD-650 to sound harsh tonight with some awful Jpop. It SEEMS this X-Fi isn't as bad for it.

 

Here it what's annoying..it's soundstage is larger than the ODAC and my HRT MSII with the HD-650. It sounds sort of like the Ipod 3G (not Ipod Touch) with it's touch of warmth. That thing has a WM8731 chipset and this sounds very similar.  I think this X-Fi sounds better than the Fiio E10 by far. It also sounds completely flat. No area sticks out at all ever unless it's that way in the recording.

 

It also goes well with my HD-598 and even without an external amp. I don't think it will drive the HD-650 very well by itself but I should try it. It might be a nice way to drive the HD-650 when you travel, but of course it won't be at 100%.

 

I ordered the Modi to compare with the ODAC. I don't care if it's worse really. I doubt it will really sound identical. I've never had a DAC for the HD-650 where it's soundstage really impressed me with it's size. Maybe I need the Bifrost or something. I actually don't want the HD-650's soundstage to be too massive, but that will probably never happen.

 

EDIT: I just tried the X-Fi Go Pro without an external amp and the HD-650 just sounds more muffled and congested. Still not horrible, but the nice soundstage seemed to shrink a little. However the sound gets ridiculously loud, but that doesn't mean anything. Volume is at 75%. Overall it still sounds quite good. The X-Fi is not good for low impedance headphones though it seems.

 

This is actually way better than straight out of a portable player at least.


Edited by tdockweiler - 3/6/13 at 11:17pm
post #11174 of 19162
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post


The bass is only 2-3 percent of the total audible spectrum. Why should we base our headphone purchase on that?


I assume you're being facetious ..... and not looking at a frequency plot logarithmically like your brain interprets it?

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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

I've never had a DAC for the HD-650 where it's soundstage really impressed me with it's size. 

Is it even possible to get impressive soundstage for the HD650? If you ever find a recipe to make that happen I'd be incredibly happy to hear about it lol. I've been upgrading my equipment here and there. When testing things with the HD650, the headphones definitely show great improvements. Soundstage has definitely improved as well but I have never felt that it was all that impressive. I always get the image of being in a cozy cafe or lounge and i doubt it will expand that much further even with upgrades. Overall though, that is fine since that closeness and soothing ambiance is one of the main reasons why so many people love these headphones. I think the cozier soundstage also helps create that feeling. For me though I do prefer a larger soundstage. However, as far as the HD6xx series go, I believe that isn't quite their forte.  

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