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post #10711 of 25779
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post


"Several orders of magnitude". That's usually where I stop to read.

Sure, that's Schiit-speak, which is to be expected.

 

You said there's no reasonable chance for that being true. Again, I'm wondering if you're even aware of what changes were made for Asgard 2.


Edited by paradoxper - 2/11/13 at 10:06pm
post #10712 of 25779
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Sure, that's Schiit-speak, which is to be expected.

You said there's no reasonable chance for that being true. Again, I'm wondering if you're even aware of what changes were made for Asgard 2.
Hi. Yes I am aware of the changes but he is talking about several orders of magnitude. Orders of magnitude are easily measurable and I wonder how Schiit measure detail reproduction in an amp.
post #10713 of 25779

Just got an itch to put on my HD650's again.  Haven't listened to them much since my preorder of the HD800's when they were released, only now and then.  I had forgotten how much i like these with my original set up for them.  They have Zu mobius recable, which were the top silver cable at one point and i a m running them thru a Eddie Current Zana Duex amp with a Brimar tube driving it and a rebuilt/overbuilt Digital link dac and a Diverter usb converter.  Man it just sounds so lush and incredible to me.  Guess it is just the sound i was craving right now.  Gotta get these back in rotation.

post #10714 of 25779
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post


Hi. Yes I am aware of the changes but he is talking about several orders of magnitude. Orders of magnitude are easily measurable and I wonder how Schiit measure detail reproduction in an amp.

Do you understand the changes then?

 

And Schiit uses the Stanford Research SR1 audio analyzer on the objective side of things.

post #10715 of 25779
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Do you understand the changes then?
omg. Yes, I understand the changes but I do not understand how those changes can give several orders of magnitude difference in detail reproduction. Do you understand what I mean?
post #10716 of 25779
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post


omg. Yes, I understand the changes but I do not understand how those changes can give several orders of magnitude difference in detail reproduction. Do you understand what I mean?

I do not understand what you mean, sorry.

post #10717 of 25779
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

I do not understand what you mean, sorry.
OK. Then there is no point in continuing our discussion.
post #10718 of 25779

That was a discussion? tongue.gif

post #10719 of 25779

LOL, yes I understand muxamed's point... I think he's just taking Jason's words too literally.  Yes, orders of magnitude indicate that it'd be, for example, several powers of 10.  Since detail retrieval is difficult to measure in a quantifiable manner, then it is difficult to validate the claim of "several orders of magnitude".
 

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I don't really care, but here's a brief breakdown of what I believe muxamed's hangup is with the wording Jason used in a private correspondence:

 

Several orders of magnitude would equate to between three and five orders of magnitude.  The exact phrasing of the quote indicates (if taken literally) that Jason feels the detail retrieval is 1,000-100,000 times better in the Asgard 2 than the original Asgard.  Within the full spectrum of audio reproduction, some would argue that there aren't "several orders of magnitude" between the detail retrieval of an iPod compared to a Clearaudio Statement (much less one iteration of one product to the next). 

 

So yeah, back on topic - Not that they occupy a majority of my head time, but I've really enjoyed the HD650 lately on the Liquid Glass when I've got the Siemens E288CC in the amp.  Seems like a slightly brighter tube can be beneficial.  Conversely, I can't stand the HE-6 with the E288CC's; it's way too bright.

post #10721 of 25779

I'm being reminded of Apple and its fanboys for some reason. tongue.gif

post #10722 of 25779
Haha nail on head
post #10723 of 25779

HD650 is on my short list of open back phones to try. Can these be driven properly with an E17 amp? 

post #10724 of 25779

Oops. I forgot to set the notification to "immediately" otherwise I'll never see the response... Is there a way to make "immediately" the forum default? I keep forgetting to check it and the "Daily Digest" is all but useless to me. By the time I get the notice, the thread has moved on for four more pages.... biggrin.gif

post #10725 of 25779
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Originally Posted by joebobbilly View Post

LOL, yes I understand muxamed's point... I think he's just taking Jason's words too literally.  Yes, orders of magnitude indicate that it'd be, for example, several powers of 10.  Since detail retrieval is difficult to measure in a quantifiable manner, then it is difficult to validate the claim of "several orders of magnitude".
 

 

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Originally Posted by jazzerdave View Post

I don't really care, but here's a brief breakdown of what I believe muxamed's hangup is with the wording Jason used in a private correspondence:

 

Several orders of magnitude would equate to between three and five orders of magnitude.  The exact phrasing of the quote indicates (if taken literally) that Jason feels the detail retrieval is 1,000-100,000 times better in the Asgard 2 than the original Asgard.  Within the full spectrum of audio reproduction, some would argue that there aren't "several orders of magnitude" between the detail retrieval of an iPod compared to a Clearaudio Statement (much less one iteration of one product to the next). 

 

 

Exactly my point. Thank you guys wink.gif

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