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post #10516 of 27589

I think it's just that some people are making it sound like the HD650 can sound as good as an HD800 or a T1 if you feed it with amazing equipment... it's gonna sound good, but it cannot beat technical superiority. The bottom line is, the HD650 improves more than other headphones if you spend more money on equipment. But it's never going to beat any of the headphones that are 3-10x the price, it just won't.

 

Everyone take a deep breath, put on your cans and enjoy your (compared to the majority of the audio out of there) top of the line sound...

 

.... As if you didn't have them on already biggrin.gif


Edited by yokken - 1/29/13 at 6:29pm
post #10517 of 27589
I don't see the 650s and 800s competing with each other. They have very different presentations.
post #10518 of 27589
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

 

My current system is a significant improvement over the Bifrost/Lyr combo. The HD800 magnified that difference. The HD650 can't to the same extent, as it's just not capable enough.

 

Isn't this stating the obvious?

post #10519 of 27589
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

 

My current system is a significant improvement over the Bifrost/Lyr combo. The HD800 magnified that difference. The HD650 can't to the same extent, as it's just not capable enough.

 

Isn't this stating the obvious?

 

For some? No.

post #10520 of 27589

If the HD 800's actually had technical superiority, that might be true, but if you take a look at the detailed measurements at innerfidelity.org the HD600's though HD 800's all have very similar performance.. 

post #10521 of 27589

Can we all just forget about measurements? Please? They mean absolutely nothing in real world situations. Two headphones could have extremely similar frequency responses and still sound nothing like each other. Let us not forget, not every headphone is created equal. One measured pair of HD650s might measure a bit differently from another pair. All the similarities between the HD600 and HD800 show is that Sennheiser aims to be consistent with their signature.


Edited by yokken - 1/29/13 at 6:39pm
post #10522 of 27589
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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

If the HD 800's actually had technical superiority, that might be true, but if you take a look at the detailed measurements at innerfidelity.org the HD600's though HD 800's all have very similar performance.. 

 

And you determine that from graphs? What type of graphs? There are CSD plots, impulse response graphs etc that illustrates the HD800 is one of the most capable headphones available.... actually... nvm... not gonna bother...ignorance is bliss and all that jazz.

 

So the HD650. Good headphone.

post #10523 of 27589
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

******* you lot are defensive. I never stated the HD650 doesn't scale well. Just that sky is not the limit as some would have you believe. Bloody hell.

You have done your best....."Let it go, Indiana"  biggrin.gif  (Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade reference...)

post #10524 of 27589

Now kids, can't we all just get along?

post #10525 of 27589

To demonstrate the midbass excellence of the HD650, I give you some trap (that's a genre for anyone who didn't know):

 

post #10526 of 27589

I swear they come out with a new genre of music every damn month. Any artist trying to make a name for themselves or create a new fad twists their music a little bit from the norm and calls it a new genre. OT I know, but I have always found it funny as these new genres pour out.

 

HD-650s, great cans!

post #10527 of 27589
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Originally Posted by yokken View Post

Can we all just forget about measurements? Please? They mean absolutely nothing in real world situations. Two headphones could have extremely similar frequency responses and still sound nothing like each other.

 

Um..er..cough, cough...

 

Do you think perhaps we might be swinging a bit too far the other way now? 

post #10528 of 27589

Hey pp312. How's it hanging? Did you enjoy the display of ruffled feathers?

post #10529 of 27589
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Originally Posted by yokken View Post

Can we all just forget about measurements? Please? They mean absolutely nothing in real world situations. Two headphones could have extremely similar frequency responses and still sound nothing like each other.

 

Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
 

Um..er..cough, cough...

 

Do you think perhaps we might be swinging a bit too far the other way now? 

 

Yeah I would say so. There's more to measurements than just FR graphs and I think someone like Tyll Hertsens would probably argue that the measurements do in fact show the technical superiority of the HD800.

post #10530 of 27589

I think I should be getting a BiFrost & Lyr this week, we shall see if MattTCG is correct in the Lyr.

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