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post #10096 of 19181

Kind of strange people talking about AKG or Bayerdynamic is better in HD650 appreciation thread and of course I am sure they are good headphones too but wouldn't the AKG and Bayerdynamic have their own appreciation threads?

 

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post #10097 of 19181
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

I love it how everyone who's tried my HE-400, who aren't accustomed to headphones at all, always talked about how comfortable and spacious they were.

I dunno. Personally I found them to be heavy and overhyped, and they went back to Crutchfield. Go figure. biggrin.gif

And here we all are talking about HiFiMan, Beyer, etc. in a HD650 appreciation thread...
Edited by swmtnbiker - 1/4/13 at 6:33pm
post #10098 of 19181
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Originally Posted by skeptic View Post

Exactly.  Who doesn't like to think they got something for nothing?  It's much like the post-purchase justification phenomena.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization)  People like to perceive improvements and so they often do.

Indeed. No one ever *complains* about headphones/amps/dacs/cables/tubes/whatever sounding WORSE after burn-in. It's always an improvement.

And now back to your regularly scheduled program...
post #10099 of 19181
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Originally Posted by Blisse View Post

Priming.
You go in expecting a change because you've burned them in, and voila, you hear a change, but there's no way to prove that you didn't hear the same thing and just convinced yourself you heard something different. It doesn't matter what you do. This is all subconscious and out of your control.
 
 

 

Perhaps you can explain then why I don't always hear an improvement, or indeed any change at all. I would say that happens 50% of the time.

post #10100 of 19181
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Originally Posted by cheuh View Post

 

Comparing your old Hifiman HE-400 and DT880, based on sound quality alone, which one do you think is better for electronic music? Which has better bass, soundstage, and instrument separation?


Electronics definitely better on HE400. HD650 doesn't have that HE400's energy. For slower music i would pick the HD650 though

post #10101 of 19181

what kinda amps are required for HD650? Give me some samples. from cheapest to costliest which *significantly* improves the SQ of 650.  Slight improvements do not count.

post #10102 of 19181

I can only offer suggestions based on what I've owned and auditioned. 

 

*e17-this was really not enough to bring out an enjoyable experience for me with the 650. Mark it down for "will do in a pinch."

 

*e09/odac-this combo was surprisingly good to my ears. I used low gain on the e09 and the odac seems to be a very good complement to the mix.

 

*lyr/bifrost-just a wonderful combo for the 650. It's an impressive upgrade to everything else that I'd tried with the 650. It got even better with a nice set of Amperex Orange Globe tubes.

 

Oh, I have heard that the bottlehead crack is VERY good with the 650 although I have not heard it. 

 

gL!!


Edited by MattTCG - 1/5/13 at 9:31am
post #10103 of 19181

little dot MK2 - my first amp.. i thought it sounded very good but i had nothing to compare it to so take that with a grain of salt.

O2 - was not my favorite combo. 

Lyr - very good.  Might not give you exactly that tubey sound youre looking for but i have been 100% happy with it but if i had more money, there would be other options i would go for. 

CSP2+ - very very good also if your budget is that high.  clean sounding.  to me, this amp doesnt really sound as tubey as most either.  if budget was a concern, id go for the lyr between these two. 

ZDSE - the pinnacle of what i have tried.  not sure if it was new toy syndrome or what but everything sounded awesome out of it. of course it is pricey and i had an upgraded umbilical if that stuff matters to you.  

 

ive owned many more but not at the same time as when i had my 650s.

post #10104 of 19181

Is the HD650 the most natural sounding with live recordings in its price range? To me it sounded especially natural with live recordings, I used to turn my head when there was an ambient background noise in the recording which I thought came from the room I was in. That didn't happen with studio recordings as much, which tended to sound more one dimensional.

post #10105 of 19181
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Originally Posted by matti620 View Post

Is the HD650 the most natural sounding with live recordings in its price range? To me it sounded especially natural with live recordings, I used to turn my head when there was an ambient background noise in the recording which I thought came from the room I was in. That didn't happen with studio recordings as much, which tended to sound more one dimensional.

100% depends who u ask... as with most gear. some people think one thing, others think another.

post #10106 of 19181
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Originally Posted by dragonball View Post

what kinda amps are required for HD650? Give me some samples. from cheapest to costliest which *significantly* improves the SQ of 650.  Slight improvements do not count.

 

The 650's work very well with tube amps....I love my Decware CSP2+ with them. Lot's of happy Bottlehead Crack  and La Figaro 339 folks too. Price range $550 or so for the La Figaro, $750 or so for the Crack and about $1000 depending on options for the CSP2+....

post #10107 of 19181
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Originally Posted by dragonball View Post

what kinda amps are required for HD650? Give me some samples. from cheapest to costliest which *significantly* improves the SQ of 650.  Slight improvements do not count.

Not sure my example will be of any help. Not sure it's even still available but the Opera Consonance Cyber 30 really makes the HD650 sing. It is a 2A3 tube based SET amp that makes 3.5 watts. This combo does not sound veiled or slow to me at all. Also responds well to tube rolling the small driver tube.
post #10108 of 19181

I'm not sure I like the HD650 more with the Amperex tubes. They aren't as crisp sounding as the GEs, though they are more revealing somehow? At least on my DT880. But there were some songs that I listened to on my HD650 last night where I was listening for one specific part in a song that is a little hard to hear, and I swear it was smoothed right over. Like it wasn't even there. Vocals didn't really seem any better, either. I do like the sound on my DT880 but it will take some getting used to with my HD650.

post #10109 of 19181

Tubes matter with the 650's. Half the fun/challenge is finding the right combo for your tastes. Enjoy the ride!

 

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post #10110 of 19181

Tube rolling is a dangerous game.


Edited by eltocliousus - 1/6/13 at 2:13am
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