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post #9151 of 17017

When people say a specific headphone works better with a tube amp rather than solid state, why is that exactly? What is the difference between the two and what they have to offer? And is one preferred over the other for the 650s?

post #9152 of 17017
In regards to amps, I tested the HD650 on a Violectric V100 (solid state) vs tube amps like ALO Pan Am, Little Dot Mk 3, Schiit Valhalla.

The difference to my ears is that the solid state sound is cleaner and a bit leaner then the tube amps I've tried. Tube sound is warmer and fuller to my ears.

I have a Graham Slee Solo SGRII on the way fit a 3 week trial. So I will report back on it vs the LD Mk3.
post #9153 of 17017
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Originally Posted by VitaX View Post

When people say a specific headphone works better with a tube amp rather than solid state, why is that exactly? What is the difference between the two and what they have to offer? And is one preferred over the other for the 650s?

Some will say solid state sounds cleaner, yes and that may be true when using a mid-level tube amp. But once you start getting into the $500-$1,000 amps and beyond it's not so cut-and-dry. At least, the one's I've listened to.

 

Thing about tube amps, though is you can use some tubes that sound cleaner and more analytical than others. I prefer tubes that have laid back mids a tad more relaxed in the treble department. But I have other tubes I can switch out with that suddenly change the sound to a more sterile and sparkly presentation.

 

Though, for me these differences are pretty subtle. It's not like I'm using a totally different amp or anything. You just sort of fall into what you like. The tubes I use, I rarely switch out no matter what genre of music I'm listening to. Whatever sounds good to you. The nice thing about tube amps though is you do have the option to experiment with different tubes. Plus they just look impressive there, glowing warmly on your bookshelf/desk biggrin.gif

post #9154 of 17017

First post here, so I'd like to say a big hello to all! 

 

After what felt like 10 years of deliberation and conflict, I just purchased a pair of 650's a few moments ago online. Really amped but sad at the same time that my loyal pair of HD 595's are now on back up duty. 

post #9155 of 17017
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Originally Posted by pjv1990 View Post

First post here, so I'd like to say a big hello to all! 

 

After what felt like 10 years of deliberation and conflict, I just purchased a pair of 650's a few moments ago online. Really amped but sad at the same time that my loyal pair of HD 595's are now on back up duty. 

 

Cool :)

 

What does the rest of your setup look like, if I may ask?

 

I know how it feels to put your previously loved headphones aside... Same story for my 598's. At first I would find excuses to use them still, like for movies and stuff. Now I just use the 650's for everything and the sad 598's are collecting dust :P.


Edited by Nirvana Woman - 12/2/12 at 1:32pm
post #9156 of 17017
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Originally Posted by pjv1990 View Post

First post here, so I'd like to say a big hello to all! 

 

After what felt like 10 years of deliberation and conflict, I just purchased a pair of 650's a few moments ago online. Really amped but sad at the same time that my loyal pair of HD 595's are now on back up duty. 

 

Hey congrats and welcome to HF!! You just got yourself an outstanding hp. wink.gif

 

Just use the right amp and you're golden...

post #9157 of 17017

My current setup is embarrassing at the moment, currently using a Marantz CD5003, an archaic Rotel rcx-820al (which I'm sure nobody will remember as its stupidly old) and a Rega RP1 turntable. The 650's are the first in a series of purchases over the next few weeks as I slowly get a new setup together and ditch that darn Rotel. I got the 650's first to allow for burn in time. 

post #9158 of 17017
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Originally Posted by pjv1990 View Post

My current setup is embarrassing at the moment, currently using a Marantz CD5003, an archaic Rotel rcx-820al (which I'm sure nobody will remember as its stupidly old) and a Rega RP1 turntable. The 650's are the first in a series of purchases over the next few weeks as I slowly get a new setup together and ditch that darn Rotel. I got the 650's first to allow for burn in time. 


I would hardly call that emberassing :P Granted, I don't know that Rotel - I have however only heard good stories about that brand. Anyway, welcome :P.

post #9159 of 17017

Thanks, I'm sure this is the start of a long, fun (and expensive) journey biggrin.gif

post #9160 of 17017

Purchased my 650 two days ago, can't wait...

 

Now its time for new balanced dac/amp ... lets do it msyelf :-)

post #9161 of 17017

Congrats mmoraw, welcome to the club!!

post #9162 of 17017
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Originally Posted by Keevs View Post

In regards to amps, I tested the HD650 on a Violectric V100 (solid state) vs tube amps like ALO Pan Am, Little Dot Mk 3, Schiit Valhalla.
The difference to my ears is that the solid state sound is cleaner and a bit leaner then the tube amps I've tried. Tube sound is warmer and fuller to my ears.
I have a Graham Slee Solo SGRII on the way fit a 3 week trial. So I will report back on it vs the LD Mk3.

Just received my SRGII/HD650 combo, so am in a similar position. Am so far loving it, though I have no tube amp to compare it against. Will be interested in your findings as I was tempted by the LD Mk3 too, but was freaked out by the fragility of tubes when I have 3 annoyingly energetic cats chasing each other around the flat:rolleyes:
post #9163 of 17017
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I auditioned the lcd2 for a week just a few months ago. Honestly, the sound was wonderful. I love a dark signature with good textured bass and the lcd2 gives you those in spaides. 

But as good as it was it has two things going against it IMO. The price for one. And secondly for me, the comfort is what I'd call bearable at best. Comfort of course will be different for different people. But if I'm dropping $1k on a hp it better be damned comfortable. Too heavy and too much clamp for me to enjoy listening with it for more than about  30-40 minutes. I'd live with the cost if Audeze could find a way to shave about a third of the weight off. 

I used to say the exact same thing. Now I have a pair of LCD-3, which are more comfortable than the 2. The weight used to bother me too, until I started wearing the HD800 with the 650 on top of it. Compared to that, the LCD3 are fine! smily_headphones1.gif
post #9164 of 17017
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Originally Posted by pjv1990 View Post

First post here, so I'd like to say a big hello to all! 

After what felt like 10 years of deliberation and conflict, I just purchased a pair of 650's a few moments ago online. Really amped but sad at the same time that my loyal pair of HD 595's are now on back up duty. 

Welcome to Head-Fi and congrats on your new purchase. The 650s are quite a bit better overall than the 595s so I think you'll be happy. Just make sure you have at least some minimal amplification to drive them.
post #9165 of 17017
I am sure I am the thousandth person to ask this, but I will anyways. Little Dot MKIV or the Lyr? Looking for my first tube amp.
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