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post #14896 of 16962

Or you could look at this ember thread here on head fi I have this one and love it.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/675850/project-ember-review/90#post_10079918

With the Senn 650's it really is a nice upgrade, and if you want to build it yourself, you have that option.  

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The Ember is a terrific match for the 650.. if you're tight on space, it's a great choice since it's pretty tidy.  That being said, the BH Crack + SB is a more impressive combo (to my ears).  The Ember is, comparatively, more intimate in presentation (not intimate in an absolute sense.. cause the SB'ed BH Crack's stage is positively spacious).. but the upside is it can power a variety of phones (including orthos) quite well.  Being able to roll both 6v & 12v tubes (on the fly!) is really cool, as well.  The Ember is very transparent to the tube used.. it's dead quiet.. and possesses excellent dynamics.  I've liked how it pairs with every headphones I've tossed at it.. especially the HE-500.

 

Many seem to like the LCD-2 most with solid state gear.. but most solid state gear I've heard in the $300-$700 range seems to lack a realistic sense of stage depth.  IME, that's my favorite aspect of the tube gear I've owned.. it provides a better sense of depth than the SS gear I've owned.  I'm keeping the Ember around to see how it pairs with the LCD-2.. if it doesn't float my boat, the Ember will be up for sale.

 

Re: the speedball option for the Crack.. I haven't heard a Crack w/o the speedball, so I'm not sure what a stock Crack sounds like.. but judging by the consensus of opinions on what the speedball does, I tend to feel it's a very valuable upgrade to the Crack you plan to use the 650 with it: a cleaner, tighter sound.. better clarity & dynamics.. a lower noise floor.. all things the HD650 would certainly benefit from.  But the beauty of the Crack kit?  You can always install it at a later time.

 

If Bottlehead sent boutique handbags with their Crack kits, it would be a whole lot easier to convince wives and they'd probably triple sales overnight.. LOL!


Edited by FlySweep - 12/19/13 at 11:32am
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I recently added the speedball and liked the results but its not a night and day type of difference .  Its more of a refinement of the qualities the stock Crack is already fantastic at.

 

From BH Speedball product page

 

"So what does it do for the sound? The most immediate thing you will notice is a better sense of clarity. Things get tighter and quicker, bass and midrange get cleaner and more dynamic sounding, and the background gets more quiet. As with all of our upgrade kits, the improvement is easily heard."

 

And it does exactly that. Its good at all the above stock, Speedball is the icing on the cake.


Edited by JamieMcC - 12/19/13 at 11:52am
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I totally agree with Jamie.  The speedball is a nice add-on, but the stock crack is excellent in its own right, and particularly well matched with hd650's to my ears.  From the outset, I far preferred my stock crack to my prior woo 3 (which aint a bad amp!), even with a pair of very pricey amperex pq 7308's driving the woo.  Adding the speedball, film caps, fancy pot, etc. are all fun potential tweaks to consider in the future, but I am definitely a proponent of enjoying and living with the stock build for a little while at least.     

post #14900 of 16962

If you want to truly appreciate the sound quality of the 650, or any good hp, try taking a week or two off from listening to them. Put them on and be prepared to be stunned at just how good they are. 

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^ this.

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If you want to truly appreciate the sound quality of the 650, or any good hp, try taking a week or two off from listening to them. Put them on and be prepared to be stunned at just how good they are. 

 

I rotate my headphones for this exact reason.....

post #14903 of 16962
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If you want to truly appreciate the sound quality of the 650, or any good hp, try taking a week or two off from listening to them. Put them on and be prepared to be stunned at just how good they are. 

Life lesson right here.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

If you want to truly appreciate the sound quality of the 650, or any good hp, try taking a week or two off from listening to them. Put them on and be prepared to be stunned at just how good they are. 


Quoted For Truth.

 

I'd like to add: Once you have a nice headphone setup and feel the urge to spend more on something "better", invite a friend or relative who isn't an audiophile to have a listen to their favorite music through your rig. Their response usually brings you back to reality (how good it is already) and that can help put your wallet away. :-)

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I have the HD650 but I'm so curious about the sound of the HD600. The only thing preventing me from at least "borrowing" one from amazon to test it out is that I can never imagine myself owning something that ugly... vs HD650's great curves and looks
I decided to buy both and end my search. Both are great all arounders. 600's when I need more space and treble for classical and instrumental pieces. 650's for just about everything else. Schiit stack is running both.
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I decided to buy both and end my search. Both are great all arounders. 600's when I need more space and treble for classical and instrumental pieces. 650's for just about everything else. Schiit stack is running both.

Thought the soundstage of the 650 is larger than the 600 and the treble is supposedly better as well. I love the 650, especially playing coldplay, but would definitely like more speed and less "laidbackness" for electronic music. I am however satisfied with my 650 enough that I don't think I need another headphone until I can afford the 800. Maybe also get a BH crack from my Vali.

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Quoted For Truth.

I'd like to add: Once you have a nice headphone setup and feel the urge to spend more on something "better", invite a friend or relative who isn't an audiophile to have a listen to their favorite music through your rig. Their response usually brings you back to reality (how good it is already) and that can help put your wallet away. :-)
LOL.....Aaaa Maaan:D
post #14908 of 16962

^^ Yes if you don’t listen to classical music and have a good amp, the HD650 is a better choose, IMO.

post #14909 of 16962
Originally Posted by Solarium View Post
 

Thought the soundstage of the 650 is larger than the 600 and the treble is supposedly better as well. I love the 650, especially playing coldplay, but would definitely like more speed and less "laidbackness" for electronic music. I am however satisfied with my 650 enough that I don't think I need another headphone until I can afford the 800. Maybe also get a BH crack from my Vali.

 

Though similar, they both do one thing better than the other.

post #14910 of 16962

Hi there, I got the 650 on black Friday and I´ve been using them with the Dragonfly from Audioquest, I really like the sound coming from the HD650 I also know that I can get more if I feed them with something better, hence my questions: Has anyone the HD650 and the Yulong D100 MKII Amp/DAC Combo?? How are they together?? What can I expect (sound-wise)? I like the idea of getting the Yulong due to the ability of driving high impedance and low impedance cans (I want to get them like an all-rounder)

Thanks in advance

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