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post #14686 of 17017
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Originally Posted by Gfresh404 View Post
 

Is there a favorite amp among 650 owner's that you don't have to build yourself?


It depends on your budget. Of course the Bottlehead Crack is a favorite among a lot of HD650 owners, but of course you do have to build it. But also, you may be able to find one in the Head-fi classifieds that is already built or ask Bottlehead to build it for you (for an extra fee). I am really liking the Schiit Vali with the HD650's, it pairs well with them for me, however it depends if you like tubes or solid state. Other options are the Schiit Valhalla, Asgard 2, Magni, or Schiit Lyr.  Yes i only named 2 brands the Crack and Schitt, but those seem to be the most popular amongst HD650 owners.

 

It really comes down to your budget, whether or not you want tube or solid state and the sound signature you are looking for.


Edited by TheGame - 12/7/13 at 9:52am
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It depends on your budget. Of course the Bottlehead Crack is a favorite among a lot of HD650 owners, but of course you do have to build it. But also, you may be able to find one in the Head-fi classifieds that is already built or ask Bottlehead to build it for you (for an extra fee). I am really liking the Schiit Vali with the HD650's, it pairs well with them for me, however it depends if you like tubes or solid state. Other options are the Schiit Valhalla, Asgard 2, Magni, or Schiit Lyr.  Yes i only named 2 brands the Crack and Schitt, but those seem to be the most popular amongst HD650 owners.

 

It really comes down to your budget, whether or not you want tube or solid state and the sound signature you are looking for.

 

I'm surprised I've seen the Magni recommended so often w/ the 650's given its $100 price tag.  


Edited by Gfresh404 - 12/7/13 at 10:00am
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Well the Magni is a great sounding amp, especially for it's price, and it does pair well with the HD650's. The HD650's are considered to be a "darker" sounding headphone with coloration, while the Magni is a bright amp. Pairing them together makes good sense. For me though, I prefer a darker sound and I like the warmth of tubes thus I like the Vali with the HD650's, and the $119 price tag for the Vali can't be beat for it's quality.

 

If you're in the $100 -$150 Range I suggest Magni for a brighter solid state amp, or the Vali for a warmer tube amp. If you have a higher budget then of course you'll have more options, but for the price of either one of those two amps mentioned, they are very good quality sounding amps with the HD650.


Edited by TheGame - 12/7/13 at 10:40am
post #14689 of 17017
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Originally Posted by Gfresh404 View Post

Is there a favorite amp among 650 owner's that you don't have to build yourself?

Hard to go wrong with a vintage receiver.
-Marantz 2230, 2270
-Pioneer SA-6500, SA-8500, SX-650, SX-1050
-Onkyo TX2500 MKII

And these are just the ones I've owned/heard
post #14690 of 17017
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Well the Magni is a great sounding amp, especially for it's price, and it does pair well with the HD650's. The HD650's are considered to be a "darker" sounding headphone with coloration, while the Magni is a bright amp. Pairing them together makes good sense. For me though, I prefer a darker sound and I like the warmth of tubes thus I like the Vali with the HD650's, and the $119 price tag for the Vali can't be beat for it's quality.

 

If you're in the $100 -$150 Range I suggest Magni for a brighter solid state amp, or the Vali for a warmer tube amp. If you have a higher budget then of course you'll have more options, but for the price of either one of those two amps mentioned, they are very good quality sounding amps with the HD650.

 

Magni is sort of bright to me too, but not bright enough IMO to change how the HD-650 normally sounds. I would say the Magni is still neutral with a hint of brightness. More than an O2 at least. I didn't find the Vali to be warm at all with my modded Q701 which is strange. It didn't seem to add any coloration, but with the HD-650 it did. Not sure why the difference. I probably will be the only one who doesn't like the Vali with the HD-650.

 

Chances are I'd love the Lyr with the HD-650. I would probably change it's stock tubes though to match it to my preferences. Maybe I can get it to sound similar to the Vali with the Q701 :normal_smile :

 

My favorite amp that consistently WOWs me with the HD-650 is the Headroom Micro Amp + Astrodyne. I can't think of any fault in any area. Been using it for 4 years now. With the HD-650 (and Micro DAC) it's very open/spacious sounding, very detailed and smooth. It doesn't make the HD-650 any warmer though. Maybe a little fuller mids compared to say how an HD-650 sounds on the O2. I guess the negative is that the HD-650 is not so laid back/relaxed with this setup (Amp still transparent sounding). Probably has more to do with the DAC. To me the HD-650 is capable of being very revealing. This wasn't apparent to me the first year of using the HD-650.

 

I got an iFi iCAN incoming any second and I bet it sounds great with the HD-650!


Edited by tdockweiler - 12/7/13 at 11:00am
post #14691 of 17017
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Chances are I'd love the Lyr with the HD-650. I would probably change it's stock tubes though to match it to my preferences.

I would love to hear the HD 650's with the Lyr too! A friend of mine uses his HD 650's with the Lyr and Amperex Orange tubes and absolutley loves it.

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Tubes for Lyr is just personal preference. I for example prefer unpopular here 6N1P over Orange Globes
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Can anyone compare the clamping force of the 650's to the 598's? Or just comment on it in general, I've heard it's pretty tight. Unfortunately comfort has always been an issue for me since I have a pretty large head and suffer from migraines.

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Can anyone compare the clamping force of the 650's to the 598's? Or just comment on it in general, I've heard it's pretty tight. Unfortunately comfort has always been an issue for me since I have a pretty large head and suffer from migraines.

Slightly more clamp on the HD650, but the sound ... oh the sound. Worth it :)

post #14695 of 17017
The 598s are more comfortable out of the box but the 650 clamp does soften up considerably. Mine are now virtually the same as my 598s three months down the line, probably 150 hours on them.
post #14696 of 17017
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Originally Posted by Gfresh404 View Post
 

Can anyone compare the clamping force of the 650's to the 598's? Or just comment on it in general, I've heard it's pretty tight. Unfortunately comfort has always been an issue for me since I have a pretty large head and suffer from migraines.

 

The 650's are the most comfortable phones I have even after several hours use.

post #14697 of 17017
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The 650's are the most comfortable phones I have even after several hours use.

 

I have to second this. I've had several headphones and honestly the HD650 are the most comfortable ones I've ever owned. I have a slightly narrow head, so maybe that's why they weren't too bad out of the box for me. But they've gotten even better since they've arrived.

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I have to second this. I've had several headphones and honestly the HD650 are the most comfortable ones I've ever owned. I have a slightly narrow head, so maybe that's why they weren't too bad out of the box for me. But they've gotten even better since they've arrived.


I noticed you own some Mad Dogs and you think the HD 650 are the most comfortable? I would pick the Mad Dog in comfort hands down! But that's not to say the HD 650 isn't comfortable...it is comfy, but the clamp can be an issue for some.

 

The most comfortable headphone I've ever put on is by far the HD 700, though.

post #14699 of 17017
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I noticed you own some Mad Dogs and you think the HD 650 are the most comfortable? I would pick the Mad Dog in comfort hands down! But that's not to say the HD 650 isn't comfortable...it is comfy, but the clamp can be an issue for some.

 

The most comfortable headphone I've ever put on is by far the HD 700, though.

 

Don't get me wrong, the Mad Dogs are crazy comfortable too. I give the nod to the 650 simply because they're open and use velour pads. I prefer velour to leather during the warmer months and open cans breathe better. The lambskin on the Alpha Pads is wonderful but it can get a tad stuffy at times. Before the 650, they were my go to for comfort. The Mad Dogs aren't far behind the HD650 by any means and I still think they're incredible on my head, that comfort strap! But the breathability of the 650 nudge it out slightly.

 

I too have tried on the HD700 for a short while. I don't own them so my statement still stands. :wink_face: With no sound playing I absolutely loved them. But I would never own one as I didn't care for the sound signature at all. I'm toying around with the idea of buying a replacement headband pad for the 700 and transplanting it onto my 650. Honestly if I could get the 650 sound with the 700 body I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. But to me the 700 just aren't worth owning.

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Don't get me wrong, the Mad Dogs are crazy comfortable too. I give the nod to the 650 simply because they're open and use velour pads. I prefer velour to leather during the warmer months and open cans breathe better. The lambskin on the Alpha Pads is wonderful but it can get a tad stuffy at times. Before the 650, they were my go to for comfort. The Mad Dogs aren't far behind the HD650 by any means and I still think they're incredible on my head, that comfort strap! But the breathability of the 650 nudge it out slightly.

 

I too have tried on the HD700 for a short while. I don't own them so my statement still stands. :wink_face: With no sound playing I absolutely loved them. But I would never own one as I didn't care for the sound signature at all. I'm toying around with the idea of buying a replacement headband pad for the 700 and transplanting it onto my 650. Honestly if I could get the 650 sound with the 700 body I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. But to me the 700 just aren't worth owning.

Yeah, for most people it's either you really like the HD 700 sound or you just don't. It's very different from the HD 650, almost opposite sound signature, but once I got used to it I loved it. I don't own them (yet) but they are still the most comfortable that I've tried. I didn't think they were worth $1,000 but after the recent price drop they are looking very attractive to me now. I agree, a HD 650 in a HD 700 shell would be heavenly, though.

 

But this is an HD 650 appreciation thread, so I won't derail.

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