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post #14296 of 17072
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Originally Posted by Copperears View Post

Listen at different volume levels. I find the HD650s start to sound more precise if you set the right volume for the specific recording. They don't suffer from a lot of ear-generated distortion at higher volumes, but they also, I find at least, are crisper and more detailed at lower volume levels. Sometimes if you have a very warm recording, as Waits tends to have, it actually sounds better a little louder. More midrange presence. Hard to describe, just encouraging you to experiment.

I'm sorry, Copperears, but I don't think that I have acknowledged this. How very right you are! The Senns are very volume sensitive. If find increasing the volume useful more often than reducing it, but what do I know? I have only burned these cans in for 15-20 hours or so and listened for 4-5, maybe. Anyway, your insight is very valuable, thank you so much.

post #14297 of 17072
No apology needed! Just trying to help you enjoy. I've spent far too much time in my life stepping on my own toes with arbitrary requirements for seeming perfection; anything I can do to help others avoid such error, is great!

Spent too much of my time chasing the impossible goal of trying to recreate absolutely live performance experience in the living room. Never going to happen. So now, too late in life, have switched my approach to simply enjoying everything where it is, instead of forcing it to my will. smily_headphones1.gif

Enjoy!
post #14298 of 17072

Well, the Russ Andrews cable has arrived. It is rather splendid, despite being heavy and awkward and resembling something from a 1930s sci-fi movie. The change is profound. The lateral soundstage has increased 10° each side with a gap dead centre and the sound has become less comfortable and cushioned, resembling the Q701s rather more, particularly as regards the digital glare on upper strings. I don't like the sound much. Back to burning-in the kit and the listener. Panic setting in.

post #14299 of 17072

Congrats Amictus! I'm quite positive you'll be pleased to have the HD650s to complement your Q701 as they are certainly a good complement with my K702 Annies. I agree with Matt in regards to the length of burn-in time... they seem to have some subtle changes even up to the 100+ hour mark.  Enjoy the journey!

post #14300 of 17072

Thank you, Joebobbilly! The truth of the matter is that I like both sets of cans. I am a mainly classical listener, so the extra bass and timbral richness (and truth-telling) of the HD650s is already delighting me. The new cable was a big shock, as it sounded completely different to the stock cable. It took away the 'veil' which is so often referred to, but opened up the soundstage so much that there is a gap in the middle in some recordings. It also, briefly, imitated the digital glare of the Q701s on the upper-mids. That has now settled down. These are now my standard headphones. The warmth is now more subtle.

 

The Q701s are still splendid at some things. I am still trying to kill the digital glare by long-term burning-in. All my desk equipment is new, however. Audiolab M-DAC, Lovely Cube amp, HD650s. It's all burning in together. I think that the amp is a better fit for the Senns than for the AKG.

 

On the menu at the moment: The 1958 'Sacre du Printemps' with Lenny and the NYPO. A long-time recording for hi-fi show-offs, it still sounds fine, but no dynamic lower than mezzo-forte is favoured! Not subtle, maybe, but good for burning-in!

 

Interestingly, the 'gap' seems to be decreasing. Or my ears are compensating. :confused_face_2:

post #14301 of 17072
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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post
 

Thank you, Joebobbilly! The truth of the matter is that I like both sets of cans. I am a mainly classical listener, so the extra bass and timbral richness (and truth-telling) of the HD650s is already delighting me. The new cable was a big shock, as it sounded completely different to the stock cable. It took away the 'veil' which is so often referred to, but opened up the soundstage so much that there is a gap in the middle in some recordings. It also, briefly, imitated the digital glare of the Q701s on the upper-mids. That has now settled down. These are now my standard headphones. The warmth is now more subtle.

 

The Q701s are still splendid at some things. I am still trying to kill the digital glare by long-term burning-in. All my desk equipment is new, however. Audiolab M-DAC, Lovely Cube amp, HD650s. It's all burning in together. I think that the amp is a better fit for the Senns than for the AKG.

 

On the menu at the moment: The 1958 'Sacre du Printemps' with Lenny and the NYPO. A long-time recording for hi-fi show-offs, it still sounds fine, but no dynamic lower than mezzo-forte is favoured! Not subtle, maybe, but good for burning-in!

 

Interestingly, the 'gap' seems to be decreasing. Or my ears are compensating. :confused_face_2:

 

Honestly, I like the HD650 for all type of music except classical orchestra music. 

post #14302 of 17072

Amictus, can u post a foto of your new cable...what is it made of? :P

i love listening to classicals on my hd650...i get wrapped into the music..enrapturing..rapturing...something along that line.:P

post #14303 of 17072
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Honestly, I like the HD650 for all type of music except classical orchestra music. 


Really?? I love Beethoven's 6th thru the Mojo/Gun stack!

post #14304 of 17072
Hey folks, just ordered a JDS 02 amp and a HD650. I was wondering if the DACs in either a 2012 MacBook Pro Retina or 2013 iMac be sufficient to drive the 02 and HD650, or would I need a stand-alone DAC?
post #14305 of 17072
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Originally Posted by joebobbilly View Post


Really?? I love Beethoven's 6th thru the Mojo/Gun stack!

Imho hd650 kills the natural timbre of the acoustic instruments and i personally prefer k501, k701 or Dt660 to it, actually by a large margin. Modded hd650 though sound fine with classical. Ymmv.
post #14306 of 17072
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Originally Posted by Xcellere View Post

Hey folks, just ordered a JDS 02 amp and a HD650. I was wondering if the DACs in either a 2012 MacBook Pro Retina or 2013 iMac be sufficient to drive the 02 and HD650, or would I need a stand-alone DAC?

 

It will be enough at the beginning, but you'll want more of the goodness. You could have ordered the O2 + ODAC combo.

post #14307 of 17072

BTW, the alpha pads r almost the same size as the hd650 pads...just slightly bigger...90% sitting inside the rim.

u can simple scotchtape up the sides n u have a lambskin treat, if u are not particular of how it looks.

Or u can force squeeze the alphapads into the rim, n have a slightly distorted inner hole :P

 

 

Soundwise...i believe i lose a little of the lower bass, music sounded somewhat tunnelled/focused/brighter.

I am guessing u might like it on the stock cable..but i am using a spc cable, so its tending towards a T1 kind of sound.

(if u know what i am trying to say...hmmm) 

post #14308 of 17072

Lorspeaker - here's a couple of photos. I selected ones which give a better impression of the cable used, which is h-e-a-v-y and inflexible.

 

 

 

post #14309 of 17072
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Honestly, I like the HD650 for all type of music except classical orchestra music. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

Amictus, can u post a foto of your new cable...what is it made of? :P

i love listening to classicals on my hd650...i get wrapped into the music..enrapturing..rapturing...something along that line.:P

 

Well, for me, the jury is still out. After much switching and comparison, I ended up yesterday evening listening to come of Stravinsky's 'The Firebird' conducted by Ernest Ansermet in a miraculously good 1955 recording. I was congratulating myself on the magnificence of the HD650s rendering of the music and was very surprised to discover, when I took the cans off, that I had left the Q701s on! I think that both headphones are recording specific at the moment... by which I mean that there are some recordings that will suit one and some that will suit the other.
 
I will post musical impressions as time goes on with the burning-in. I have stopped buying new kit for a while!
post #14310 of 17072
Ya..looks stiff..could be some solidcore wires tats gonna pump some honey into your cans:)

Some cans do bring out the best in some recordings.
Played a 'bad recordg' awhile ago on the d7000,
And i said to myself..where did this cd come from???wink.gif
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