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post #10801 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

 

I recently got a chance to try the Lyr with the HD650 and apart from how I think the Lyr has broken my HD650s, I wasn't massively impressed, planar magnetics sound like a better match with the Lyr.

If you're not being sarcastic in some subtle way, then you need to learn how to control the pot...

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post #10802 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by dpippel View Post

How did the Lyr break your headphones? I'll also say that heated up with a pair of 1966 Bugle Boys in my rig, the Lyr beats out the Burson Soloist with the HD-650.

 

Still waiting to hear more from you about the crack!! biggrin.gif

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post #10803 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

If you're not being sarcastic in some subtle way, then you need to learn how to control the pot...


maybe he's not being sarcastic? Is it that hard to believe that someone may not be all that impressed with the Lyr?

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post #10804 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:12am

^^ Not me. Just because I find the lyr fantastic with hd650 and orthos doesn't that it will impress others in the same way. There are no absolutes in this hobby when it comes to enjoyment of gear. 

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post #10805 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by dxanex View Post


maybe he's not being sarcastic? Is it that hard to believe that someone may not be all that impressed with the Lyr?

That has to do with the pot how? Read my post again. I was talking about breaking the HD650

not about the fact that he thinks the Lyr is meh with dynamics. tongue.gif

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post #10806 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

Still waiting to hear more from you about the crack!! biggrin.gif

 

I'm still in comparison mode Matt, but I will say that the many testimonials around here concerning the fantastic synergy between the Crack (especially with the Speedball upgrade) and the HD-650 are spot-on. I'm in the process of dealing with some issues right now, but as soon as I get that cleared up I'll be posting my impressions. They'll be short and to the point though, so if you're hoping for eloquent at-length exposition you may be disappointed. biggrin.gif

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post #10807 of 12345
2/16/13 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

That has to do with the pot how? Read my post again. I was talking about breaking the HD650

not about the fact that he thinks the Lyr is meh with dynamics. tongue.gif

Ah, gotcha wink_face.gif

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post #10808 of 12345
2/16/13 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Just gotten a silver cable onto my hd650....

and swapped out the thin foam over the drivers, for a thin sheet of old stockings,

the sound is JUST RIGHT for my ears, smooth, bodacious with hints of clarity :P

Late nite listening, a glass of oaky shiraz, and choral music....this v comfy hd650 is perfect atsmile.gif


^^^This right here^^^

 

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post #10809 of 12345
2/16/13 at 1:26pm

This is the second time I've heard someone describe sound as "bodacious"...can someone explain what that even means? Is it similar to being radical, or totally gnarly?

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post #10810 of 12345
2/16/13 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by dxanex View Post

This is the second time I've heard someone describe sound as "bodacious"...can someone explain what that even means? Is it similar to being radical, or totally gnarly?

 

More or less.  Bitchin' might also be an apt synonym.

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post #10811 of 12345
2/16/13 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

The Lyr's signature is dictated by the tubes. Assumptions about how well it will match with a headphone are useless without addressing the tubes employed.

Also, extra "warmth" does not curtail the HD650 IME. If anything it adds zest and makes it a more energetic headphone. Guitars are projected with extra crunch and bite, percussion with more distinct hits and vocals with extra body and definition. Mids are where the good stuff resides and a strength of the HD650. Highlighting that is not a bad thing IMO.

I admit that this is true. But...it's not a day and night fundamental change in the signature of the amp as some might think. The lyr is damn good on the stock tubes...GE's for me. I was able to really dial in and eventually bulls eye audio ecstasy with the Amperex Orange Globes. 

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Have you heard the difference between the old stock JJ tubes and decent tubes with the Lyr? Or what about the difference between good tubes when you have something as revealing as the HD800 at the end of the chain? In these instances I would say the difference is night and day.

Even with the less resolving HD650, I could easily tell the difference between the JJs, RCA's, cryoed 6N21Ps, Orange Globes, Bugles and Stuttgarts I had on hand.

Lyr impressions are useless without divulging what tubes were installed.
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post #10812 of 12345
2/16/13 at 2:41pm

How much better are the 650's to the 558's? I'm loving the 558's, i'm not sure if music can sound any better. Is... is... is there more to this? God damnit, take my money sennheiser! TAKE IT!

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post #10813 of 12345
2/16/13 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

Lyr impressions are useless without divulging what tubes were installed.

 

I totally agree with this statement.

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post #10814 of 12345
2/16/13 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by joshwalnut View Post

How much better are the 650's to the 558's? I'm loving the 558's, i'm not sure if music can sound any better. Is... is... is there more to this? God damnit, take my money sennheiser! TAKE IT!
Yes. There is a LOT more, sad to say(for your wallet).... I started with the 558s, and I upgraded to a 650 (now upgraded to a LCD2v2....) and the sound jump, although not outright obvious, was immense. The 650s kinda take everything about the 558s and up them a couple of notches, the mids are more lush(idk how some people find the mids veiled), the bass hits deeper and stronger, with much greater control, and the highs are about the same, just maybe a little more resolved and detailed in comparison. If you want a layman a idea of what switching from the 558s to 650s are like; when I first A/Bed the 2, I found myself more immersed in the music with the 650s, they brought the music to life in a way that the 558 can't. I was full out headbanging and foot stomping when listening to Floyd and Queen on the 650s, something that I am not motivated to do with the 558s. Hope this answers the question smily_headphones1.gif
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post #10815 of 12345
2/16/13 at 3:07pm
One would figure that statement holds true for tube amps in general. Haha.
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