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I don't quite remember anymore. Originally, with the Chinese tubes that the amp arrived with, it took at least several hours if not one or two days for the hum to disappear.

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I had a noisy selectron (6sn7) that calmed down after I left it on overnight, about 12 hours.
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Who's using socket savers on their Darkvoice 336 and how do you like them? Please share which socket you're using them on (front only, or back and front both), and where you bought them from. I'd like to be able to roll tubes often without having to worry about loosening up or wearing out the built-in sockets!

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I am a newbie, just got my darkvoice from Massdrop. The manual is in chinese of course and my wife does not want to translate for me. I was thinking of the rca grey glass 6sn7gt. From the Forums this seems to be the tube to get. That 6sn7gt seems to be only for the front tube. Do I have to change or recommended to change out the back tube if I change out the front tube?

 

Also any recommendations where to get tubes? 

 

I am using mainly a HD600. I use on occasion the HD650 and I do have an AKG 701 but almost never use it. So the target tubes are for the HD600 and somewhat the HD650. 

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Originally Posted by beepover View Post
 

I am a newbie, just got my darkvoice from Massdrop. The manual is in chinese of course and my wife does not want to translate for me. I was thinking of the rca grey glass 6sn7gt. From the Forums this seems to be the tube to get. That 6sn7gt seems to be only for the front tube. Do I have to change or recommended to change out the back tube if I change out the front tube?

 

Also any recommendations where to get tubes? 

 

I am using mainly a HD600. I use on occasion the HD650 and I do have an AKG 701 but almost never use it. So the target tubes are for the HD600 and somewhat the HD650. 

Hi, the front tube is the 6SN7, yes, the larger tube behind it is the 6AS7G (AKA the power tube). You can change either one without the need to change the other. But do not put the smaller 6SN7 in the rear position that the power tube would normally go. Or Vice Versa. That would be bad. The stock tubes that came with the amp are usually considered to be pretty poor sounding. You can find better ones cheapest on that auction site. Just watch the sellers feedback and cross your fingers when buying. Feel free to ask questions here.

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Originally Posted by beepover View Post

I am a newbie, just got my darkvoice from Massdrop. The manual is in chinese of course and my wife does not want to translate for me. I was thinking of the rca grey glass 6sn7gt. From the Forums this seems to be the tube to get. That 6sn7gt seems to be only for the front tube. Do I have to change or recommended to change out the back tube if I change out the front tube?

Also any recommendations where to get tubes? 

I am using mainly a HD600. I use on occasion the HD650 and I do have an AKG 701 but almost never use it. So the target tubes are for the HD600 and somewhat the HD650. 

Hi, is it have enough power to drive them? I have similar phones, Im thinking on buying it. smily_headphones1.gif
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Hi, is it have enough power to drive them? I have similar phones, Im thinking on buying it. smily_headphones1.gif

Way more than enough power to drive an HD650 which is what I'm currently using mine with.  I can't even turn up the volume up a quarter of a turn before it's way too loud.  I believe HD650 only needs 167mw per this thread and the DV is rated for over 2W (i.e. 2000mw).

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Originally Posted by donato View Post
 

Way more than enough power to drive an HD650 which is what I'm currently using mine with.  I can't even turn up the volume up a quarter of a turn before it's way too loud.  I believe HD650 only needs 167mw per this thread and the DV is rated for over 2W (i.e. 2000mw).

Is the 2000mW at 32 ohms 

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Originally Posted by rudra View Post

Is the 2000mW at 32 ohms 

I don't know how many mw's it has, but agree that it is a very powerful amp. With 600 ohm Beyer's you can only go about 10 o'clock on the dial, before it's too loud...
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I have a shuguang cv181-z as the input, and a mullard 6080/cv2984 as the output. I'm really new to this. Can anyone suggest any other tubes to match these, or any other combinations? Using it with my Sennheiser HD600, and looking for warm and lush sound.


Edited by cgouy - 9/27/16 at 9:23am
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Anybody know if the darkvoice is good for the he560,lcd2 or hd600?

Trying to upgrade from the magni 2
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I don't like La Figaro like before I do.

From what I found, the capitalist of the company pushed their designer out of the company, then rebrand the product with a new name.

What worse is that, the design of their new products truly are terrible.

Please take a look at #23-#25:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/463488/the-darkvoice-la-figaro-332c-and-332s-impressions-discussion-thread/15
Edited by circlecrystal - 12/6/16 at 3:04am
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Hi... Tube Noob here.. got my DarkVoice 336SE yesterday..  been trying it out with the stock tubes.. 

 

couple questions.. I've tried reading through this but I'll just admit I'm confused seems to be multiple model numbers that fit the same socket.. and then more that work if you get adapters??    I'll have to look through this more carefully.. because I'm lost.

 

looking at ebay ... seeing everything for $5 to $500 tubes???   and then my head started to hurt...  I had been looking at some Slyvania 6SN7 GTB tubes.. seem to be fairly inexpensive.

 

so:  with this.. I do not currently want to invest unlimited funds in just buying a bunch of tubes..  looking for bang / buck tube replacement recommendations for pairing w/ beyerdynamic DT880.

 

also ? would I be correct in thinking that the preamp tube 6SN7 would have greater impact on sound quality w/ rolling than the power tube  .. I may want to just upgrade one tube for now and after xmas getting something for the other?

 

I'd probably like to be in the $30~ (per tube) or less tube cost spot .      Alternately I've been liking this thing as it is... (never had tube amp before) I guess according to most stuff I've read the tubes generally get nicer sounding once they burn in some?.. I could just leave it alone for awhile also I guess?

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Hello all, first post here.

 

I just received my Darkvoice from Massdrop. I have noticed that when turning it up past 50% volume I start to get distortion and not much increase in volume. I have been trying to track it down to see if I can find a definite cause of it. I have tried using a Fiio E17K as an amp with both the headphone and output ports to see if it might be my headphones. With the E17K and turning the volume up on the darkvoice amp I can still notice some distortion, however, it is most noticeable when connecting headphones directly to the headphone port. Source is a turntable running through a phono preamp then into the Darkvoice. Headphones tested with are Klipsch Mode M40 and Audeze EL-8 Closed-back. My primaries are the EL-8s and I have to believe this thing should have no problem powering them and I shouldn't have any distortion. I am also thinking I shouldn't have to turn the volume up as much as I am having to.

 

I have read some things about the tubes being bad from the factory and I'm wondering if that could be it. If anyone else has any other ideas it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Thank You.

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