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post #31 of 102
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No problem Gary. I think a plus with the omega 2 is it is much more inexpensive compared to the he90 which is more $$$ plus discontinued and if the o2 can even compete with the orpheus it is a good sign.
post #32 of 102
Having both an HE90 & HE60 and an HEV90, and extensively used the OO2, I would say following:

HE60's = most comfortable, classic seenheiser vise-like tight seal. I have a smaller-type head and I find this to be comfortable.

HE90's = once settled right, comfortable, but more delicate on the head.
Also more delicate to handle. The huge drivers and greater weight make them susceptible to 'floppiness' if handles from one earcup. I wouldn't call this product built poorly, I would say however, that it requires kid gloves (as anything in this price range would), and over time the headband and possibly the screws if handled poorly will wear out.

OO2 - Strange fit for me. Sound seemed 'tweakable' dependant upon fit, and I generally don't like that aspect of a phone. I want the most natural and single position it wants to be on my head. But, this headphone, more than the others, seems to 'change', not necessarily benefit, from different amps. Heard it out of a KGSS, Blue Hawaii, HEV90, 007t, and found that, the HEV90 made it sound the worst. The rest had varying degrees of virtue.

I am soon to get a maxxed out ES-1. We'll see how that sounds
It'll have 3 plugs, HE90, HE60, OO2; Handy for 3 people listening sessions, oh, and comparisons too.

Neil
post #33 of 102
Having an HE90, HE60 and an HEV90; and extensively used the OO2, I would say the following:

HE60's = most comfortable, classic seenheiser vise-like tight seal. I have a smaller-type head and I find this to be comfortable.

HE90's = once settled right, comfortable, but more delicate on the head.
Also more delicate to handle. The huge drivers and greater weight make them susceptible to 'floppiness' if handles from one earcup. I wouldn't call this product built poorly, I would say however, that it requires kid gloves (as anything in this price range would), and over time the headband and possibly the screws if handled poorly will wear out.

OO2 - Strange fit for me. Sound seemed 'tweakable' dependant upon fit, and I generally don't like that aspect of a phone. I want the most natural and single position it wants to be on my head. But, this headphone, more than the others, seems to 'change', not necessarily benefit, from different amps. Heard it out of a KGSS, Blue Hawaii, HEV90, 007t, and found that, the HEV90 made it sound the worst. The rest had varying degrees of virtue.

I am soon to get a maxxed out ES-1. We'll see how that sounds
It'll have 3 plugs, HE90, HE60, OO2; Handy for 3 people listening sessions, oh, and comparisons too.

Neil
post #34 of 102
I have owned the Blue Hawaii, KGSS and now the ES-1. All great amps, but the amplifier that opens up the greatness of the 02 headphones is by far the ES-1. I don't think any headphone can be intelligently discussed without judging the signature of the amp and headphone as a single unit.
post #35 of 102
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Originally Posted by ken36
I don't think any headphone can be intelligently discussed without judging the signature of the amp and headphone as a single unit.
probably true

I guess when mentioning a headphone one should mention which amp was used with each headphone to compare to judge results accordingly.

my original thought originated around which headphone was your favorite with the best amp you could afford. ie comparing he90 and 02 on hev90 or es-1
post #36 of 102
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Originally Posted by neilvg
It'll have 3 plugs, HE90, HE60, OO2; Handy for 3 people listening sessions, oh, and comparisons too.

Neil
So it'll soon be time for Leeav and I to come over again, eh?
post #37 of 102
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Originally Posted by BrianS
probably true

I guess when mentioning a headphone one should mention which amp was used with each headphone to compare to judge results accordingly.

my original thought originated around which headphone was your favorite with the best amp you could afford. ie comparing he90 and 02 on hev90 or es-1

With the ES-1, and I assume for other tube amps, the tubes used will also make a meaningful difference. For example I know that there are very different recommended tube selections on the ES-1 for an HE90 versus an OII
post #38 of 102
Thread Starter 
true

this audio hobby has so many variables it isnt funny, not to mention people's varying preferences
post #39 of 102
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer
So it'll soon be time for Leeav and I to come over again, eh?
Thread Lurker! Yes certainly. The both of you are welcome to come over anytime. I am also getting a new CD Player. Right now it is between the Meitner Signature transport and DAC, the new Wadia, and the new Nagra.

=)

Neil
post #40 of 102
Thread Starter 
not a bad decision to make !
post #41 of 102
My head and ears tell me that the O2 has deep and impactful bass, precision with speed galore. It just peels away all the murkiness. A superb sound reproducing transducer system!

I listen to music on the HE90/HEV90.................
post #42 of 102

just curious

When ppl say es-1 has unleashed the beast inside the O2, what do they actually mean?

What aspect of O2 has been improved? and what flaws of O2 has been removed?
post #43 of 102
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Originally Posted by Konig
When ppl say es-1 has unleashed the beast inside the O2, what do they actually mean?

What aspect of O2 has been improved? and what flaws of O2 has been removed?
the o2 gets much better controll under the influence of the es1.

this is very apparent in the bass and midbass.
post #44 of 102
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Originally Posted by nikongod View Post
the o2 gets much better controll under the influence of the es1.

this is very apparent in the bass and midbass.
To my ears, it is sorta reversed. The ES1 works the magic on the upper mids to lower highs. A big blackgatted KGSS is much more in control of the bottom with greater impact.
Such is life............
post #45 of 102
My soon to be completed maxxed ES-1 is going to be using some new tubes in place of the usual GE El34's Mikhail has been favoring. These tubes apparently perform the magic trick of allowing the low end to be tight controlled, and impactful while still allowing the lower and upper midrange to breathe.

I'll keep ya'll posted.

Neil
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