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K712 (first pair of AKG's).

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K712 (first pair of AKG's).

How is it?
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K240 studio... Whatever happened to AKG's mojo? Back in the day almost every headphone they made was an original design. AKG K240 sextett, K270, K280, K290, K340... Was it them being bought out by Harman?
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I don't think they've 'lost' their mojo... I would say that their mojo is now on a very short leash.

 

Long gone are the days of wild and experimental designs. The focus is now heavily business oriented. 

This has been good in some ways, bad in others. 

Personally I think the good is they've brought many good-sounding and affordable closed-back full-size andportables to the market.

I think the bad is their flagship end of the spectrum has suffered massively, or simply been held back.

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Whatever happened to AKG's mojo? Back in the day almost every headphone they made was an original design. AKG K240 sextett, K270, K280, K290, K340... Was it them being bought out by Harman?

 

Don't forget the K 241 - people love the Sextett radiators, but replacing them with 'cheaper' acoustic filters on the K 241 was an original design at the time as far as I know, and, unlike the other designs, that one's still in use.

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AKG fan here!

 

Currently own - K3003, Q701. K550

Previously owned - K450, K518LE, K142 HD

 

:)

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I don't think they've 'lost' their mojo... I would say that their mojo is now on a very short leash.

Long gone are the days of wild and experimental designs. The focus is now heavily business oriented. 
This has been good in some ways, bad in others. 
Personally I think the good is they've brought many good-sounding and affordable closed-back full-size andportables to the market.
I think the bad is their flagship end of the spectrum has suffered massively, or simply been held back.
the k812 isn't as good as the k1000, right... But the K812 is the only high end flagship over ear I know of that is drivable by a smart phone. That's pretty innovative. Sadly, they just aren't experimenting with multi-driver designs anymore. I personally think akg should make a k240 sextett anniversary edition, and put in the radiators, and make them cost 140-200$... Or make a k340 anniversary edition. Its the only headphone I can think of that's that cheap, yet has an electrostatic driver in it... And it has a dynamic driver too! Maybe make it open back? Akg really needs to go crazy again... HARMAN!! REMOVE THE LEASH! BRING BACK THE MOST INNOVATIVE (audio) COMPANY OF THE 20TH CENTURY!... (anyone else agree with the statement that akg is the most innovative company of the 20th century in audio? Dual drivers, passive radiators, electrostat and dynamic drivers in one headphone, surround sound, acoustic filters, and a bunch more designs that were both original, and intriguing.)
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Or make a k340 anniversary edition. Its the only headphone I can think of that's that cheap, yet has an electrostatic driver in it... And it has a dynamic driver too!

 

The K 340 weren't cheap in the day, and I'd say AKG were quite hopeful in their pricing given that the hybrid design had some large flaws as you see on a CSD plot. The other two AKG hybrids, K 4 and K 145, were cheaper than the K 340, though.

 

As far as second-hand prices today go, you can either take the problematic hybrid design with the K 340 or the mature and fully electrostatic design of Stax with the SR-5.

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TBH I'm not proud... I've already put a stop to this. There is such a thing as too much.

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Bows to the AKG King!  :biggrin:

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TBH I'm not proud... I've already put a stop to this. There is such a thing as too much.

Wow that's amazing, so which one sounds the most neutral to you? Have you heard the new Studio model and could you compare the Monitor in your collection there or the Sextett to the new versions of the 240?

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The K 340 weren't cheap in the day, and I'd say AKG were quite hopeful in their pricing given that the hybrid design had some large flaws as you see on a CSD plot. The other two AKG hybrids, K 4 and K 145, were cheaper than the K 340, though.

As far as second-hand prices today go, you can either take the problematic hybrid design with the K 340 or the mature and fully electrostatic design of Stax with the SR-5.

That reminds me. I've had a K4 I haven't used in years because the headband snapped and it's so hard to find a foster phone for it because the drivers are connected to the transformers so it's a weird shape.
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The K 340 weren't cheap in the day, and I'd say AKG were quite hopeful in their pricing given that the hybrid design had some large flaws as you see on a CSD plot. The other two AKG hybrids, K 4 and K 145, were cheaper than the K 340, though.

As far as second-hand prices today go, you can either take the problematic hybrid design with the K 340 or the mature and fully electrostatic design of Stax with the SR-5.
hmm... the problem with that is the fact that the stax sr-5's are rather rare from a quick web search... Even compared to the k340.
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 which one sounds the most neutral to you? Have you heard the new Studio model and could you compare the Monitor in your collection there or the Sextett to the new versions of the 240?

Hmm... that's a tough question.

From memory it's a close call between 240M and 141M + Pleather pads... might be the 141M, but they're both in storage right now, so I can't check.

The 141M + velour is lacking some bass to be called neutral. 

 

Most of them are missing in the bass department to be honest, so even the two gold monitors are slightly on the 'bright'/thin side of neutral.

 

Never actually heard the new monitor, so I can't answer your second question.

I did borrow a EP sextett from a friend for a few weeks once, and it's easily the most fun sounding out of the lot (more bass, and the same lush mids as the silver k141)

Not sure why I never actually bought one myself. I should probably get round to that at some point. Unless someone wants to propose a trade for one, as most of these are for sale. 

 

I've actually also got a K1 waiting for me with my folks in England... it's probably going to be a few months until I get a hold of it.

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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 

Hmm... that's a tough question.

From memory it's a close call between 240M and 141M + Pleather pads... might be the 141M, but they're both in storage right now, so I can't check.

The 141M + velour is lacking some bass to be called neutral. 

 

Most of them are missing in the bass department to be honest, so even the two gold monitors are slightly on the 'bright'/thin side of neutral.

 

Never actually heard the new monitor, so I can't answer your second question.

I did borrow a EP sextett from a friend for a few weeks once, and it's easily the most fun sounding out of the lot (more bass, and the same lush mids as the silver k141)

Not sure why I never actually bought one myself. I should probably get round to that at some point. Unless someone wants to propose a trade for one, as most of these are for sale. 

 

I've actually also got a K1 waiting for me with my folks in England... it's probably going to be a few months until I get a hold of it.

 

Sounds like the AKG "house sound" never really included deep bass. This was even true on my Dad's old original K140 but if I'm not mistaken it isn't using the Sextett drivers.

 

The K240 Studio isn't that different from what you're describing but the treble is a bit hot to be called neutral, the sub-bass is quite lacking, and the upper bass/lower mids are just a double dB above neutral. I'm essentially comparing to what I heard with an HD600 and Shure SRH440, the latter of which I own.

 

I think some say the K240M has more treble roll-off than modern 240s and I've also heard the K240DF is the most neutral of the whole classic AKG line. I'm still very curious about the DF myself.

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