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post #301 of 780
11/30/06 at 7:33pm
Here's some of my 6SN7's + others.There's another complete layer of mostly 6SN7's below the one shown in this box.

I also have another smaller box of 6SN7's

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post #302 of 780
11/30/06 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by augustwest View Post
"I started wondering about this because I got three 6414s and three ECC-adaptors here. SP seems quite busy, so I took the question here."

Are you sure they are all "ECC" adapters? It would seem more likely that two of them would be "5687 adapters" & one would be an "ECC" adapter.

I ask because the "ECC" & 5687 adapters are not inter-changable and both are 9 pin mini's to octal.

(although it is not impossible that all three could be "ECC adapters" either)

- augustwest
They have "ECC" engraved on them, and they are of different color to the 5687-adapters I have. I also asked for getting 3 of them with the amp.

Well, it seems that one is defective. I can't make it work, so I have to talk about this with SP.
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post #303 of 780
11/30/06 at 7:48pm
"They have "ECC" engraved on them, and they are of different color to the 5687-adapters I have. I also asked for getting 3 of them with the amp.

Well, it seems that one is defective. I can't make it work, so I have to talk about this with SP."

sounds good!

Don't worry they will replace the defective one

- augustwest
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post #304 of 780
12/1/06 at 10:17am

Tubes for sale

Anyone with a surplus of tubes:

Got any 6SN7 VT-231s for sale? Which ones? How about TungSol 5687s?

Email me or send me a private message.

John

Copenhagen
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post #305 of 780
12/1/06 at 3:41pm
Hi all,

I'd like to add one more thing to my MPX3 SLAM.
It has the automagic voltage control, so voltage isn't an issue.
What I'd like to add is a gain socket adaptor.
It looks like the ECC1 supports some of the best gain tubes, but the ECC2
supports the 6DJ8 and I have some killer nos Mullard CV2492s that I use in my
XCANv3. Does anyone have experience with the 6DJ8 family in the gain
position?
I'm currently leaning towards the ECC1, since it is known to support such good
gain tubes.

thanks!
A
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post #306 of 780
12/1/06 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by Amarok View Post
Hi all,

I'd like to add one more thing to my MPX3 SLAM.
It has the automagic voltage control, so voltage isn't an issue.
What I'd like to add is a gain socket adaptor.
It looks like the ECC1 supports some of the best gain tubes, but the ECC2
supports the 6DJ8 and I have some killer nos Mullard CV2492s that I use in my
XCANv3. Does anyone have experience with the 6DJ8 family in the gain
position?
I'm currently leaning towards the ECC1, since it is known to support such good
gain tubes.

thanks!
A
I didn't realise there were two different ECC adaptors.

Have I missed something?
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post #307 of 780
12/1/06 at 4:55pm
Is the ECC1 the one that takes 12au7? Then ECC2 is really different, if it takes the 6DJ8.
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post #308 of 780
12/1/06 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by Rob N View Post
I didn't realise there were two different ECC adaptors.

Have I missed something?
I've been dealing with J Petrie @ SP.
I asked about adaptors and got this email in response.
Here's the amp I'm (anxiously) waiting for. I don't know if any of the extras
are needed for any of the adaptors to work. I can only imagine the heater
making a difference at least for the fact that the {6,8,12}xxx are all listed as
direct plug-in.

MPX3 SLAM........... 1199.00
Ultimate Power..... 285.00
Jensen Caps......... 154.00
Auto Heater.......... 499.00 (Magic is expensive!)

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Hi David,
The ECC adapters allow for a myriad of tube types to be used both in driver and output positions. Here is a list of the tubes/adapters that are compatible with your amplifier:
__________________________________
Driver Tubes
Direct Plug-in
12SN7
8SN7
6SN7

5687 adapter
5687,
7044,

ECC adapter type 1
12CG7,
8CG7,
6CG7,
12AX7,
12AT7,
12AU7,
ECC99,
6414,
7062,
5965,
5963,
5814A,
5844,
ECC99,
PCC99,
ECC182,
PCC182

6350 adapter
6350,
6463,

ECC adapter type 2
6DJ8,
6922,
PCC88,
ECC88,
ECC189,
E88CC,
CCA,
6ES8,
9B

Loctal Adapter
14N7,
7N7,
7AF7,
7F7,

6350 (adapter),
6456,
ECC99,
ECC182
__________________________________________________ ______
Output Tubes

Direct plug-in
13D7,
6BX7,
6BL7,
12SN7,
8SN7,
6SN7,
12SX7

Loctal Adapter
14N7,
7N7,

5687 Adapter
5687
Dunno how much of this is new... but hopefully there'll be stuff in there to
make some new experiments possible.
I also said I thought it would be real cool if they could have >1 driver socket
and allow you to switch back and forth with a switch. But I'm sure if they
ever decide to do so that I won't be able to afford it.

And after all of this, I'll probably love the stock tubes and never change
anything.

Enjoy!

A
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post #309 of 780
12/1/06 at 9:21pm
Oh!

There are quite a many tubes to try! ECC99 is listed multiple times, I see.
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post #310 of 780
12/1/06 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by Amarok View Post

And after all of this, I'll probably love the stock tubes and never change
anything.

Enjoy!

A
You will love tube testing, I think it is as much fun to find a tube combo thats works in your rig, as finding new music!
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post #311 of 780
12/1/06 at 11:32pm
i agree, you will love swapping tubes.
it is VERY advisable to get a few sets.

someone else once wrote in a review of a "higher end" headphone than they had before "hey, i never knew that there was a saxophone in this piece."

sometimes hearing things just a littttle bit differently makes you hear different parts of the music. swapping tubes allows this small change with just 1 pair of headphones.
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post #312 of 780
12/2/06 at 1:37am
"I didn't realise there were two different ECC adaptors."

It's news to me too! Will the "ECC2" work with all MPX amps, or only certain ones?

- augustwest
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post #313 of 780
12/2/06 at 4:31am
So I kept my MPX3 Slam SE after all...and I'm so glad I did. Now that I have a little bit of time, tuberolling is so addictive. Especially if you have most all of the popular tubes in 12v form . I'm using it now with HD650s instead of L3000 (the sale of which went to fund some Spendor S3/5's and a Bel Canto amp). I don't have speaker cable yet, but I can't wait to hear the SE as a preamp.

I haven't done a lot of hardcore listening yet- I've been too schizo with tube selection- but one thing I feel confident in saying is if you're looking to expose the sound of your gain tube, 6BX7's are it. I've tried all the possible output tube combos (including 5687s), and they're remarkably transparent, at least tonally (I don't have a good feel for detail/resolution yet). In fact, the Hytron 12SN7/6BX7 combo was slightly cold to my ears.

Also, the Tung-Sol RP just sound right. That is all.
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post #314 of 780
12/2/06 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by mateo05 View Post
So I kept my MPX3 Slam SE after all...and I'm so glad I did. Now that I have a little bit of time, tuberolling is so addictive. Especially if you have most all of the popular tubes in 12v form .

I haven't done a lot of hardcore listening yet- I've been too schizo with tube selection- but one thing I feel confident in saying is if you're looking to expose the sound of your gain tube, 6BX7's are it.
Thats what I think too. The 6bx7gt has almost no discernable character of its own and just passes on the sound of the gain tube.
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post #315 of 780
12/2/06 at 5:36am
The 6N1P (I would only use the black plate version from the 60's) and 6BZ7 should work since they are the same pinout as the 6DJ8.
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