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post #46 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Afrikane
Forgive the newb question but is it normal for a new pair of SR007's to make scratchy electrical shorting sounds when adjusting the cups? It's not particularly loud but it is alarming never the less.
Like a needle scratching over a record? The left driver in my 003 has the same issue. The manual states it's nothing to worry about. A little wiggle makes it go away.

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post #47 of 2675
Yes, a needle scratching a record is a very close description of the noise I hear. I must stress that it is not a constant sound, it only occurs when I rotate the pads into position.
post #48 of 2675
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Originally Posted by paulllaser
I have 3 different Stax phones, the OII's, Lambda Pro, and SRX/MkIII. All amazing and "different" sound signatures from dynamic cans. Listening mostly through SRM1/Mk2, sometimes trrough dedicated McIntosh power amp SRD7/Mk2 adapter. Soon a McAlister EA-4 and after that, well you know what happens with this hoby, the KGBH and ES-1 can't be that far down the road. All three of the above Stax phones are delightfully comfortable and non fatiguing to listen to for hours.
I'm usually understated, but this is one of those rare times when I will say...

you suck.

I'd pay real money to hear the system when you get it set up. And did I mention you suck? This is why the Lambda smiley is green!

post #49 of 2675

Anyone heard anything on new ES phones?

I think it was just after the National Meet, but I heard 3 rumors.
1. the new McAlister es amp ( mentioned above and now on the web site )
2. the appearance for a day of an Omega lll on the Stax homepage
3. Kevin Gilmore mentioned the intro of a new "king of the hill" es headphone in the near future (could be the same as #2 )
I'm currently saving my pennys and hope to take the plunge to electrostatics next year sometime but in the meantime, on the lookout for a good lamda pro here and on ebay.
post #50 of 2675
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Originally Posted by ironbut
I think it was just after the National Meet, but I heard 3 rumors.
1. the new McAlister es amp ( mentioned above and now on the web site )
2. the appearance for a day of an Omega lll on the Stax homepage
3. Kevin Gilmore mentioned the intro of a new "king of the hill" es headphone in the near future (could be the same as #2 )
I'm currently saving my pennys and hope to take the plunge to electrostatics next year sometime but in the meantime, on the lookout for a good lamda pro here and on ebay.
New Stax headphones? Sweet!

When did the Omega II's first come out?
post #51 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Afrikane
Yes, a needle scratching a record is a very close description of the noise I hear. I must stress that it is not a constant sound, it only occurs when I rotate the pads into position.
Sounds like you're talking about the infamous stax fart to me, haha. It's just a sound you get when air pressure changes, nothing to worry about.
post #52 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Jahn
Well, for an alternative on the 4070...There's always this!
The 404s are designed to be completely open, so I'm not sure why Larry made his woddies closed. I'm curious what he's doing about the backwave.


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Originally Posted by ironbut
I think it was just after the National Meet, but I heard 3 rumors.
1. the new McAlister es amp ( mentioned above and now on the web site )
No news about it, although Peter clearly does take electrostatics seriously so is bound to have product evolution.


Peter, if you're reading this: Direct heated triodes! Go on, you know~ you want to!

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2. the appearance for a day of an Omega lll on the Stax homepage
3. Kevin Gilmore mentioned the intro of a new "king of the hill" es headphone in the near future (could be the same as #2 )
I'm currently saving my pennys and hope to take the plunge to electrostatics next year sometime but in the meantime, on the lookout for a good lamda pro here and on ebay.
There have been rumours of an immenent Omega III for, what, four years now?

As long as the OII continues to sell well, and as long as nobody else comes along with a competiting product, then they have precious little reason to replace it.
post #53 of 2675
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Originally Posted by SimpJee
New Stax headphones? Sweet!

When did the Omega II's first come out?
The SR Omega came out in 1993 and O2 in 98 according to the Stax History web page. The one and only thing I heard about an Omega 3 was that the Stax product page when updated with the new versions of the tube amps also had a listing for an Omega 3 but was quickly changed back to the old listing for the O2. I didn't see it myself so I thought that it was probably a typo, but after thinking about it, they wouldn't have changed a product listing if they were just going to relist the same text. And then there's the mention of a new top of the line stat by K. Gilmore. I was starting to seriously save for an O2 and maybe a Blue Hawaii when I heard that and the ES-1's were starting to roll in, Headamps new tube es amp, the upgrade of the McAlister,.. well, I decided to just get a used older Stax ( SRXmk3, Lamda pro) and wait for the dust to settle. I think it's a pretty exciting time to be into cans myself!
post #54 of 2675
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Originally Posted by ironbut
The SR Omega came out in 1993 and O2 in 98 according to the Stax History web page. The one and only thing I heard about an Omega 3 was that the Stax product page when updated with the new versions of the tube amps also had a listing for an Omega 3 but was quickly changed back to the old listing for the O2. I didn't see it myself so I thought that it was probably a typo, but after thinking about it, they wouldn't have changed a product listing if they were just going to relist the same text. And then there's the mention of a new top of the line stat by K. Gilmore. I was starting to seriously save for an O2 and maybe a Blue Hawaii when I heard that and the ES-1's were starting to roll in, Headamps new tube es amp, the upgrade of the McAlister,.. well, I decided to just get a used older Stax ( SRXmk3, Lamda pro) and wait for the dust to settle. I think it's a pretty exciting time to be into cans myself!
Yep, exciting times to come lol. Maybe I should sit tight with my ... SR-001's and save my pennies for an Omega 3. Gah, that's a lot of pennies.
post #55 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Carl
The 404s are designed to be completely open, so I'm not sure why Larry made his woddies closed. I'm curious what he's doing about the backwave.
Probably nothing; just allowing it to be a different flavor of sound. From what he's said to me when I was considering putting different drivers in different housings, he always said "just because the driver is designed that way doesn't mean it ONLY works that way." And if it's true about the 4070, then apparently Stax thinks it can work, too.
post #56 of 2675
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Originally Posted by hembergler
I wuv my Lambda Pros.
Me too. The Lambda Pro is absolutely amazing through ES1. It's going head-to-head with HE90, and not giving much, if any, ground (Yeah, HE90 does lots of things better, but not 20x better, which was my price ratio). I used to own the SR-404, but found it boring. IMO the Lambda Pro is a far better headphone. I've compared the Lambda Pro to the Omega II twice, on very different occasions and systems. The OII is smoother, with slightly more detailing. However, the OII can stay smooth, even when the music isn't. The Lambda Pro has the best dynamics and impact I've heard in an electrostatic headphone so far.
post #57 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Hirsch
Me too. The Lambda Pro is absolutely amazing through ES1. It's going head-to-head with HE90, and not giving much, if any, ground (Yeah, HE90 does lots of things better, but not 20x better, which was my price ratio). I used to own the SR-404, but found it boring. IMO the Lambda Pro is a far better headphone. I've compared the Lambda Pro to the Omega II twice, on very different occasions and systems. The OII is smoother, with slightly more detailing. However, the OII can stay smooth, even when the music isn't. The Lambda Pro has the best dynamics and impact I've heard in an electrostatic headphone so far.
Thats not going to make the lambda pro any easier to get off ebay.... :<
post #58 of 2675
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ironbut
The SR Omega came out in 1993 and O2 in 98 according to the Stax History web page. The one and only thing I heard about an Omega 3 was that the Stax product page when updated with the new versions of the tube amps also had a listing for an Omega 3 but was quickly changed back to the old listing for the O2. I didn't see it myself so I thought that it was probably a typo, but after thinking about it, they wouldn't have changed a product listing if they were just going to relist the same text. And then there's the mention of a new top of the line stat by K. Gilmore. I was starting to seriously save for an O2 and maybe a Blue Hawaii when I heard that and the ES-1's were starting to roll in, Headamps new tube es amp, the upgrade of the McAlister,.. well, I decided to just get a used older Stax ( SRXmk3, Lamda pro) and wait for the dust to settle. I think it's a pretty exciting time to be into cans myself!
In my opinion, new Stax came out with the Omega II because the original Omega had far too small a profit margin and unacceptable reliability. It was forced onto the market to compete with the Orpheus. You can see in the Omega II's design lots of little shortcuts (not necessarily of the bad kind), like PCB stators that have been used to drive the production cost down. So Stax moved from the Omega 1 to Omega 2 for a reason. But what reason is for them to move over to an Omega 3? They've got sales, they've got margins.


In any case, older Staxes (SR-X, SR-5N, Lambda Signature, etc) really aren't that far behind the Omega II. It's the amplification that varies the most across the price range more than the headphones.

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Originally Posted by Meyvn
Probably nothing; just allowing it to be a different flavor of sound. From what he's said to me when I was considering putting different drivers in different housings, he always said "just because the driver is designed that way doesn't mean it ONLY works that way." And if it's true about the 4070, then apparently Stax thinks it can work, too.
The 4070 uses what is effectively a bass reflex housing to drain the backwave. Simply using a closed baffle on a dipole speaker is not a particularly good idea, unless a lot of care is put into the design.
post #59 of 2675
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Originally Posted by Hirsch
Me too. The Lambda Pro is absolutely amazing through ES1. It's going head-to-head with HE90, and not giving much, if any, ground (Yeah, HE90 does lots of things better, but not 20x better, which was my price ratio). I used to own the SR-404, but found it boring. IMO the Lambda Pro is a far better headphone. I've compared the Lambda Pro to the Omega II twice, on very different occasions and systems. The OII is smoother, with slightly more detailing. However, the OII can stay smooth, even when the music isn't. The Lambda Pro has the best dynamics and impact I've heard in an electrostatic headphone so far.
Your impression's of the Lambda Pro's in a meet thread I read ,are what sent me on a quest to search for a pair. I also have a pair of 404's and they don't get much playtime at all. I strongly prefer the Lambda Pro's .
post #60 of 2675
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Originally Posted by fierce_freak
Sounds like you're talking about the infamous stax fart to me, haha. It's just a sound you get when air pressure changes, nothing to worry about.
Thanks for putting me at ease on that issue.
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