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post #1816 of 2675
1/21/07 at 8:13am
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
It was easy, I didn't solder . But first off if you are going to solder anything near an electrostatic driver you have to protect it from the anything hot (i.e. flux flying off the joint) as it will burn right through the driver. I use a piece of cardboard that I cut to size. Back to the SR-X, the drivers are connected with metal clips and these are the same that Stax used on the Magnavox phones so I had some extra and reused them. You have to have a set of small screwdrivers and a small set of pliers and some patience and I just crimped them on the new cable. Then I just put a couple of zip ties inside the cup to keep the cable from being pulled out and the strain relief keeps it from being pushed in.

Yeah, the SR-X has clips and the Gamma is soldered. Dunno why, I was very surprised when I saw spade connectors in there. Seems to work fine so not an entirely dumb decisin on their part I suppose.

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post #1817 of 2675
1/21/07 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
I just crunched the numbers on everything that's happend over the last month. After I replace the SR-404 pads to essentially get back to the exact same place I started, it all adds up to +$14.93. Essentially, I got paid $14.93 to demo the AKG K340s
So you have:
Sold SR-404/SRM 313 -> Bought K340 -> Sold K340 -> Bought SR-404/SRM 313, and in the end only lost $14.93. Not bad at all!

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Originally Posted by smeggy View Post
It's strange how this stuff goes. I started with the 404/313 and steadily worked my way backwards to the 003, then Gamma, now SR-X. And from stax amps to energizers and cheap t-amps
I wonder what your next step will be? SR-5, SR-3, SR-1...
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I'm almost afraid to buy an Omega because I seem to enjoy he cheaper/older stuff more. At least an Omega would be easy to offload if I didn't like it. I'm still more tempted by a K-1000 though.
If you have not, you should really listen to the Omega II before you offload the money or go the K1000 way. You might not like it, but its certainly worth a try.

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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
It was easy, I didn't solder . But first off if you are going to solder anything near an electrostatic driver you have to protect it from the anything hot (i.e. flux flying off the joint) as it will burn right through the driver. I use a piece of cardboard that I cut to size. Back to the SR-X, the drivers are connected with metal clips and these are the same that Stax used on the Magnavox phones so I had some extra and reused them. You have to have a set of small screwdrivers and a small set of pliers and some patience and I just crimped them on the new cable. Then I just put a couple of zip ties inside the cup to keep the cable from being pulled out and the strain relief keeps it from being pushed in.
Oh, so it use metal clips to connect the cable to the diaphragm. That simplifies the process, since we don't have to worry about destroying the driver during soldering.

Nice to get information from someone who have already performed such a re-cable job. Thanks!
post #1818 of 2675
1/21/07 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
So you have:
Sold SR-404/SRM 313 -> Bought K340 -> Sold K340 -> Bought SR-404/SRM 313, and in the end only lost $14.93. Not bad at all!
No, no, no...in the end I got $14.93 (After I buy replacement pads from Audiocubes)
post #1819 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
No, no, no...in the end I got $14.93 (After I buy replacement pads from Audiocubes)
Aahh, even better!

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I want that black SR-5, SRD-7 set on ebay Germany but the guy won't sell them to me in the US
Lets see if he will sell to Norway!
Ack! Dammit, I wanted them
Well, they just sold for €149.00 ($193). ..and this time it was not me!
post #1820 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
Aahh, even better!

Well, they just sold for €149.00 ($193). ..and this time it was not me!
In two days I've missed out on 2 cool sets of cans.. I could get quite miffed if this carries on
post #1821 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by tyre View Post
Hmm, there's a cryo treated SR-404 called the SR-SC1. Wonder if it actually makes any difference.
Anyone care to explain what 'cryo treated' means?
post #1822 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:32am
In laymans, they superfreeze them.
post #1823 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by dcfis View Post
Welcome back!! Why do most opt for the 404 when buying a la carte?I have the 3030 and am very happy as it stands but why the preference over the cheaper 303 when they are very similar(or so Ive read)?
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
I dunno, mental satisfaction?
After three years of owning the 3030 set I still wonder if they sound really different from the cheaper 2020 system. That the phones and the amp in the 2020 are at least very similar to their more expensive counterpart seems to be the opinion of Simplystax.co.uk, for instance.

Then again, I know myself. Had I purchased the cheaper system when I still could afford the more expensive one (the 4040 system was way over my budget), I would have been torturing myself by thinking what I might be missing.

BTW, check out this video of Barry Schwartz lecturing on "Paradox of Choice". It is quite funny, actually. Should be compulsory watching for us audiophiles!


Regards,

L.
post #1824 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:42am
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Originally Posted by Duggeh View Post
In laymans, they superfreeze them.
I see.
They expose the material to liquid nitrogen, to cool it down to below –180 °C.
Which rearrange the atoms and makes it a better electric transporter, right?
post #1825 of 2675
1/21/07 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
I see.
They expose the material to liquid nitrogen, to cool it down to below –180 °C.
Which rearrange the atoms and makes it a better electric transporter, right?
Yeah, then some damn idiot will plug them into a stereo and screw them up again....
post #1826 of 2675
1/21/07 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by smeggy View Post
Yeah, then some damn idiot will plug them into a stereo and screw them up again....
You have to heat them up to around 100°C or more to alter the atoms again so this works but it's not the magic bullet many believe it is.

Stax using the spade connectors could be both good and bad. It simplifies the whole assembly procedure but it also adds another contact and another solder joint. The cable is also partially blocking the rear of the driver creating unwanted reflections. Stax didn't really get a good driver interface design till the Sigma's.
post #1827 of 2675
1/21/07 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
I see.
They expose the material to liquid nitrogen, to cool it down to below –180 °C.
Which rearrange the atoms and makes it a better electric transporter, right?
It's mainly used to control the crystal structure of the metal, to make the grain structure longer and more uniform.

Some regard the benefits more highly than others.
post #1828 of 2675
1/21/07 at 3:44pm

Stax Extention Cables- Multiple Questions

-Where can I get a six pin non pro Stax Extention Cable for a Stax non pro amp and non pro Sigma headphones?

-Can I use a pro extention cable-5 pin- with a pair of non pro Sigma Headphones into a non pro Stax Amp?

-Why doesn't stax make a non pro 6 pin extention cable anymore?


Any advice is welcome- Scottsmrnyc
post #1829 of 2675
1/21/07 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by Scottsmrnyc View Post
-Where can I get a six pin non pro Stax Extention Cable for a Stax non pro amp and non pro Sigma headphones?

-Can I use a pro extention cable-5 pin- with a pair of non pro Sigma Headphones into a non pro Stax Amp?

-Why doesn't stax make a non pro 6 pin extention cable anymore?
1. Try the Cables, Speakers, Tweaks, Accessories For Sale / Trade forum, or keep an eye on eBay.
2. I think that might work, since from what I have read the 6th pin is just a dummy one (connected to the regular bias pin). But I might be wrong!
3. Probably because Stax have not produced any normal bias headphones since the early -90's.
post #1830 of 2675
1/21/07 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
2. I think that might work, since from what I have read the 6th pin is just a dummy one (connected to the regular bias pin). But I might be wrong!
You can't connect 6-pin into 5-pin (Normal into Pro), but you can connect 5-pin into 6-pin (Pro into Normal). The pin was removed so that people wouldn't do this (There's no center pin, so you physically cannot enter a 6-pin Normal bias cable into a 5-pin Pro bias jack). IIRC, with the Pro bias connector the ground leads are combined into one pin (Correct me if I'm wrong).
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