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post #121 of 296
pull harder
post #122 of 296
yeah, their incredibly difficult to seperate, i wouldnt pull from the cord cause you might break it, if you have fingernails use both thumb and pointer fingers on both hands and try wedge your nails in there. You pretty much have to nick the hell out of it to fit your nails in there. Pull hard as you possibly can and eventually they will come out.
post #123 of 296
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Originally Posted by Walie
pull harder
Yes, but make sure you're pulling on the right part...I find it helpful to slip a fingernail between the base of the cord and the plastic part of the earphone that it connects to...and then to wriggle the cord base a bit as I hold the housing down. On my first set of super.fi 5 Pros (with the new, improved cable/casing, mind you), I managed to yank the entire connection out of the right 'phone, effectively severing the wires within. I then waited nearly 2 months for the black ones to come back in stock. I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else, though, and my left cable disconnected normally, so it may have been a freak gluing defect in that case...

EDIT: Yeah, what bewildered said...
post #124 of 296
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bewildered
yeah, their incredibly difficult to seperate, i wouldnt pull from the cord cause you might break it, if you have fingernails use both thumb and pointer fingers on both hands and try wedge your nails in there. You pretty much have to nick the hell out of it to fit your nails in there. Pull hard as you possibly can and eventually they will come out.

Use a plier, no, just kidding, don't do it. Pray and pull at the same time, it works for me, a little wiggling also help. I think "replaceable cords" also mean "pull-able cord" so you can actually "replace", forgive me I am being a smart alec. Enjoy.
post #125 of 296
Just got my super.fis last week. Tried this mod, but alas, my ears weren't made for this one. I was a bit scared that I'm doomed to look like an idiot with two bolts sticking out my ears. Apparently I already look so ridicilous that the super.fis aren't such a style clash after all. The clear color scheme might also help them not to look so huge.
post #126 of 296
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lime Cat
Just got my super.fis last week. Tried this mod, but alas, my ears weren't made for this one. I was a bit scared that I'm doomed to look like an idiot with two bolts sticking out my ears. Apparently I already look so ridicilous that the super.fis aren't such a style clash after all. The clear color scheme might also help them not to look so huge.
Bummer dude, hey at least the music will sounds great.
post #127 of 296
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Originally Posted by 8lias
Bummer dude, hey at least the music will sounds great.
Wait just a minute... I'm not the type that gives up easy. I'm been fighting these phones to find suitable tips (with "standard" mode). Thought that foamies would be best. Well, the foamies that came with are quite useless since they're, how would I put it, dry. Bought some EAR Classics and destroyed the whole box of 'em just fiddling around. Didn't find a solution. Changed to double flanges and found them comfortable.

Then thought I should give FS mod another try. Now I got them right. My initial impression is that with this mod super.fis lose a bit clarity, but that's not necessarily a bad thing since I found them bit harsh on some material. Still, the music sounds great, but I'm not sure yet which of these fits I'll use.

These all are things that probably have already come up in this thread, but I just wanted to share my experiences.
post #128 of 296
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Originally Posted by epithetless
Yes, but make sure you're pulling on the right part...I find it helpful to slip a fingernail between the base of the cord and the plastic part of the earphone that it connects to...and then to wriggle the cord base a bit as I hold the housing down. On my first set of super.fi 5 Pros (with the new, improved cable/casing, mind you), I managed to yank the entire connection out of the right 'phone, effectively severing the wires within. I then waited nearly 2 months for the black ones to come back in stock. I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else, though, and my left cable disconnected normally, so it may have been a freak gluing defect in that case...

EDIT: Yeah, what bewildered said...
I had the same thing happen to mine, 30 minutes after DHL delivered them. Needless to say, I didn't keep them. Fit was not good, sound wasn't as good as I had expected, and don't even get me started on those cheap-o cords.
post #129 of 296
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Originally Posted by getagrip15
I had the same thing happen to mine, 30 minutes after DHL delivered them. Needless to say, I didn't keep them. Fit was not good, sound wasn't as good as I had expected, and don't even get me started on those cheap-o cords.
Sorry they did not work out for you, but cheap-o cords? I found the new cords to be very sturdy, almost too stiff. sorry off topic. oh well, I'm still happy for me. The FS works great. yeh me!
post #130 of 296
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Originally Posted by beedee View Post
Sorry they did not work out for you, but cheap-o cords? I found the new cords to be very sturdy, almost too stiff. sorry off topic. oh well, I'm still happy for me. The FS works great. yeh me!
agreed, I can almost strangle a cat with the cord, of course I wouldn't or I'll be sleeping on the couch, in the garage, for a while.LOL
post #131 of 296
I just tried the mod, because I couldn't get a decent seal with one ear, and it seems to work so far. But what I REALLY LIKE about this is that they don't stick out as much as they used to! Yay for that.
post #132 of 296
The mod is good for some things, like increasing seal and bass, but bad for a lot of other reasons and I'll explain why....

Aside from the fact that to me they are less comfortable, they offer the following disadvantages:

sf5pro's have dual bores. One for highs and one for lows. These IEMs were created for best sound quality in their normal position. When you swap the earpieces, you are also inverting the bores... for example, on the left ear, the bore for highs was on the left side and the bore for lows on the right side. When you invert that, then the sound entering your ears is entering it in a non-optimal position. The sound is now entering with the lows on the left bore and the highs on the right bore because they are now facing the opposite direction going in the other ear.

If you listen to your headphones carefully, you will notice that you now have a quite significant reduction in treble, but you have a dramatic increase in bass. And that is the reason why.

UE took the years to figure out what would be the best sound quality out of all the options. I'm sure they originally came up with one like the mod you are doing but found that it did not yield the best sound quality results. The best balance of treble and bass is the way they released the IEM to market.

If you are having a hard time understanding this, try to visualize it this way:
Take your speakers at home, that have the woofer on the bottom and the tweeter(s) on the top. Now turn these speakers upside down and play your stereo. Tell me if you don't have a serious reduction or alteration in your stereos imaging. The same holds true for this FS mod. You are altering the way the different sound frequencies have been optimized by UE's labs to enter your ear.

For some things, the mod works and sounds okay to me, but if you've got a good amp, there is absolutely no need to do this to acheive more bass while also drowning out more of your upper frequencies and limiting the amount of sonic information to resonate on your eardrum. You are hearing more bass because that bore is now aimed more directly at your eardrum, and less treble because that bore is now aiming at an angle not perpendicular to your ear drum.

Hope that clears up some of the confusion.
It's also a good reason why this mod wasn't introduced in the first place.
Only due to comfort issues did UE release this on your website, but they will admit to you that it affects the sound quality of the unit.
post #133 of 296
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
The mod is good for some things, like increasing seal and bass, but bad for a lot of other reasons and I'll explain why....

Aside from the fact that to me they are less comfortable, they offer the following disadvantages:

sf5pro's have dual bores. One for highs and one for lows. These IEMs were created for best sound quality in their normal position. When you swap the earpieces, you are also inverting the bores... for example, on the left ear, the bore for highs was on the left side and the bore for lows on the right side. When you invert that, then the sound entering your ears is entering it in a non-optimal position. The sound is now entering with the lows on the left bore and the highs on the right bore because they are now facing the opposite direction going in the other ear.

If you listen to your headphones carefully, you will notice that you now have a quite significant reduction in treble, but you have a dramatic increase in bass. And that is the reason why.

UE took the years to figure out what would be the best sound quality out of all the options. I'm sure they originally came up with one like the mod you are doing but found that it did not yield the best sound quality results. The best balance of treble and bass is the way they released the IEM to market.

If you are having a hard time understanding this, try to visualize it this way:
Take your speakers at home, that have the woofer on the bottom and the tweeter(s) on the top. Now turn these speakers upside down and play your stereo. Tell me if you don't have a serious reduction or alteration in your stereos imaging. The same holds true for this FS mod. You are altering the way the different sound frequencies have been optimized by UE's labs to enter your ear.

For some things, the mod works and sounds okay to me, but if you've got a good amp, there is absolutely no need to do this to acheive more bass while also drowning out more of your upper frequencies and limiting the amount of sonic information to resonate on your eardrum. You are hearing more bass because that bore is now aimed more directly at your eardrum, and less treble because that bore is now aiming at an angle not perpendicular to your ear drum.

Hope that clears up some of the confusion.
It's also a good reason why this mod wasn't introduced in the first place.
Only due to comfort issues did UE release this on your website, but they will admit to you that it affects the sound quality of the unit.
As the OP, I am "completely" agree and fully understand your post and it makes sense to me. I guess it comes down to loss of treble vs. low profile, more direct bass output, sturdier fit and easier to wear (for me at least). With my Iaudio 5, there are plenty of sound adjustments, I can get a pretty well balanced sound to my own liking, I guess in any type of mods, you gotta mod the sound output on your player as well. Happy listening.
post #134 of 296
Well, I recently purchased the superfi. 5 pros the new version and the sound is simply amazing. I think they definitely sound better than e4cs IMO, but in comfort wise and look wise, E4cs wins hands down. Superfi.5 pro are just not comfortable enough for me as I have tried all the tips and the FS mod but nothin seems to solve the issue. I just love the way they sound!!!! I wish if they would fit me better as I really like them but I think I might have to stick with the E4cs as an alternate until I get the E500s.
post #135 of 296
I must not have very discerning hearing then, because even if I rotate the body around into the correct position, (while music is playing) it sounds about the same. In other words I'm not going from detailed mids/highs to slamming bass just by rotating these things in my ears.

I'm not sure comparing speakers with a relatively big difference between the distance between the tweeters and woofers to an IEM is exactly accurate. The openings on these IEMs is separated by what, 1/32" piece of plastic? I would think that by the time the sound hits your eardrum, its pretty well mixed(?)

Of course, the super audio-philes with dog-like hearing will probably argue, but given my total inability to discern the difference and the greatly increased comfort, I'm sticking with the mod.

R/
Dustin
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