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Grado HP-1000: How high will they go?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
An eBay auction just closed for $900 for an HP-2 and the old Grado amp.

So... the questions I have are:

How long until either:

1. A headphone maker thinks, "hey, if these things are that good, maybe we should make something with that sound?"

or

2. People on Head-Fi start writing negative reviews, the fad ends, and the prices come back down to earth?
post #2 of 29
Man, these HP-1s are absolutely TERRIBLE! Flabby bass, harsh mids, and non-existent highs. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. A pair of $19.99 RS buds provide greater sonic enjoyment.
post #3 of 29
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Originally posted by joelongwood
Man, these HP-1s are absolutely TERRIBLE! Flabby bass, harsh mids, and non-existent highs. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. A pair of $19.99 RS buds provide greater sonic enjoyment.
LOL,..Bob. Keep talkin' em down. Sooner or later I'm gonna nab a pair!

post #4 of 29
Actually, I think the $900 for the HP-2 (unconfirmed, could have been an HP-3) and HPA-1 wasn't at all out of line with the current market.

A good-condition HP-2 without original materials goes for $450-600. With original packaging, materials, and good condition flat pads, that can range higher. (The HP-1 goes still higher.) The original retail on the HP-2 was $495. Adjust for inflation and they usually sell, in used condition, for a bit less than they cost new.

The HPA-1 is a much more rare component. About 1000 HP-1000s were produced and significantly less HPA-1/HPA-2s. The amps aren't as well regarded as the headphones, but given their $799 original retail, I expected this auction to finish higher than it did.

Now, obviously, we can't say these things should be selling for about their new price when they're ten years old. Certainly most audio components don't. But given their limited number and continued popularity, I don't see the market collapsing. I also don't see anyone else producing them. Grado's not gonna. Who else makes headphones that would probably now price in the $700-$1200 range? And unless Grado sells the design to someone, I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to replicate them very well.

kerely
post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
Maybe the DT880 will trounce the HP-1000, who knows.

I didn't mean that whoever won that eBay auction got a bad deal or paid more than the current market for them. It is an elevated market, though.
post #6 of 29
If that was an HP-2, that was a very reasonable price. Note that the HPA-1 amp retailed for $795, and the AC adapter was an additional $125. The HP-2 retailed for $495, and currently sells for about $600 or so. So, total retail when new would have been around $1415.

The HPA-1 is a different beast than the RA-1. It's a smoother amp (although it can still run on two nine-volts). The sound is extremely close to a MOH, IMO. The MOH is less cable sensitive, and has a more defined low end. I had a MOH for a couple of weeks on the loaner program, and had a very difficult time telling the two amps apart, except when low bass was present. I suspect that part of that was the Outlaw PCA cables, which I suspect influence the sound more than they should, and can camouflage fine sonic differences. But the major part was that the two amps have a very similar sound.

So, someone actually is making an amp with that sound, and at a fairly similar price point.

The headphone is another story...
post #7 of 29
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Originally posted by joelongwood
Man, these HP-1s are absolutely TERRIBLE! Flabby bass, harsh mids, and non-existent highs. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. A pair of $19.99 RS buds provide greater sonic enjoyment.
ugh, I know. I haven't even heard them, and I know that stock sony earbuds will destroy them! So, I can, if you want, burn, um, yeah, burn your unwanted hp-1s for free. You pay the shipping.
post #8 of 29
Quote:
Originally posted by joelongwood
Man, these HP-1s are absolutely TERRIBLE! Flabby bass, harsh mids, and non-existent highs. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. A pair of $19.99 RS buds provide greater sonic enjoyment.
Did someone call something a "piece of crap" again?
post #9 of 29
Oh man all old grados are crap. The RS-1 is defonatly the way to go fo' sure.

No but really I understand the cons of bringing back the HPs but come on Grado WE WANT OUR HP-1 and 2s!!! We could start a petition on ONLINE PETITION.
post #10 of 29
I had emailed the seller, the amp was an HPA-1. And he stated he tested them around noon today and both amp and cans were fine...
post #11 of 29
Quote:
Originally posted by joelongwood
Man, these HP-1s are absolutely TERRIBLE! Flabby bass, harsh mids, and non-existent highs. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. A pair of $19.99 RS buds provide greater sonic enjoyment.
That's right, only some kind of FREAK would want these headphones, Sony streetstyles is the way to go.


















( that should keep them from bidding )
post #12 of 29
$700 is fine and dandy for a pair of HP-1s...but $900 for the HP-1 + HPA-1 combo? I'd be chasing after a new Stax 4040 system for that much...
post #13 of 29

HP-1s

I've been listening to my HP-1s most of the afternoon today (jazz, classical) in the office (driven by a Cosmic). I am continually amazed. I get that warm buzzy feeling in my ears when confronted with such rich texture in the sound.

They're worth it... If I were you and didn't have a set, I'd try to get a set that I could afford. I hoped to get the e-bay ones for 300 and looked really hard again at them last night (when they were still at the 500 level). Had I read the post by the seller that they worked, I might have gone all the way. But I am happy with the set that I have.

Now to go home and spend time with my real headphones (R10s). The R10s sound similar if not better in terms of clarity of the sounds. The R10s I think are better because they actually make me feel like the sound fills the room in which I am listening. Subtle even slight pans are clearly apparent.

I have a set of HD600s and am not happy with them in comparison to the other phones I've got. Todd sent me a Cardas cable that should be an improvement.

Am pretty much living in Headphone heaven right now. Can't wait to try my phones out on the Twinhead and other amps on the 23rd at our meet here in Hong Kong. I have a feeling I will be spending more money in the near future. A nice amp at home (to complement this mobile Cosmic) and I think I'll be "there." Well... maybe a better source...
post #14 of 29
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I get that warm buzzy feeling in my ears
You sure this isn't tinnitus?
post #15 of 29
....or perhaps a small critter of some kind?
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